M151A1 FS (not mine)

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M151A1 FS (not mine)

Unread post by Challenger2 » January 23rd, 2018, 6:37 am

For Sale (Not Mine)
I thought members might be interested in seeing this M151A1 currently up for auction via Troostwijk a big Dutch auction company which currently has a lot of ex-US Dept of Defense vehicles (including trucks, trailers and fire trucks) on its site. There are also a number of ex-Dutch mvs (DAFs) but I don't know where this Mutt was sourced (ex-Danish Army?). Bidding seems to be quite strong on this and I would be interested to hear members' views.
https://www.troostwijkauctions.com/uk/m ... 5-4722970/

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Re: M151A1 FS (not mine)

Unread post by SturmTyger380 » January 23rd, 2018, 8:37 am

It seems to look okay, but no way would I bid on an M151 without seeing pictures of the underneath.
45' MB, ??' MBT, 47' CJ2A, 48' CJ2A,
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53' M38A1, 53' M211, 65' M151A1, 67' M416,
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Re: M151A1 FS (not mine)

Unread post by Horst » January 23rd, 2018, 6:17 pm

the ugly DAF truck looks more interesting.

A lot of money for the 151 already given it is not well taken care of and seems to have a lot of modifications
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1962 M201 and trailer
1966 GTO,1982 E350 Skoolie, 1987 SJ413, 1987 911
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Re: M151A1 FS (not mine)

Unread post by Vzike » January 25th, 2018, 10:44 am

The engine in the pictures is the L141 White engine in all M151s. It is absolutely a gas engine.

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Re: M151A1 FS (not mine)

Unread post by rickf » January 25th, 2018, 11:37 am

White? I have never heard of White branding them. Hercules and Continental but not White. White was the parent company of Hercules. I think the only White branded engines were the big truck engines. Then again, it is a 151 and anything goes.
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Re: M151A1 FS (not mine)

Unread post by Vzike » January 25th, 2018, 12:31 pm

I'm not on solid ground here, Rick. You are probably right. I remember reading that the engine was originally a White engine, and manufacturing was taken over by Hercules. Again.... not absolutely sure, so I'd have to find that source.

Still, that is an M151 engine in the picture. NOT a diesel.

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Re: M151A1 FS (not mine)

Unread post by Vzike » January 25th, 2018, 2:02 pm

Here it is.....

"Hercules was purchased by Hupp Corporation in 1961. In 1969 Hupp was taken over by White Motor; the plant operated as White Engine Division. The engine division was sold in 1976 as a separate entity and operated until March, 1987 as White Engines, Inc.

During this period 85 percent of product was for military use: the multi-fueled engine for the 21/2 and 5-ton truck, the 141 Mutt engine and engines for 15 and 30KW generator sets. Fifteen percent of engine production was for application in generator sets, welding equipment, chippers, street sweepers, blowers, sewer cleaners, graders and some farm equipment. White also entered into a private-brand contract with Caterpillar Tractor to supply engines for its Tow motor line. This contract continues. A 70 HP diesel engine was developed by White and private labeled and marketed by Ford Motor Company for repower, to diesel capabilities, Ford's E-350 step-vans."

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Re: M151A1 FS (not mine)

Unread post by rickf » January 25th, 2018, 9:49 pm

Interesting, that explains the motors from 76 on but prior to that they would have been Hercules or Continental. Where did you find that little tidbit? I am really curious about the Ford E350 repower with a 70 horse diesel considering the 6.9/7.3 would have been 160 horse at minimum. And they were V8's, I am thinking the 70 horse would be a 4 or 6 cylinder and involve a lot of work.
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1984 M1008
1967 M416
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12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone

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Re: M151A1 FS (not mine)

Unread post by Vzike » January 25th, 2018, 11:04 pm

found this on the inter web, so it must be true!

https://www.gasenginemagazine.com/gas-e ... es-engines

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Re: M151A1 FS (not mine)

Unread post by rickf » January 26th, 2018, 10:04 am

Found on the web but a legitimate article. Thanks. I am still intrigued by the last little bit about the step vans.
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone

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Re: M151A1 FS (not mine)

Unread post by acudanut » February 12th, 2018, 2:41 pm

White Motors. Interesting read. My Father's Truck Company (back in the day) used to have Tractor's with just a plain "white" on the grill. I never really thought about it. Hmmm

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