Navy Mutt - Barrett-Jackson

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Navy Mutt - Barrett-Jackson

Unread post by mrdibbles » February 24th, 2021, 5:12 pm

Interesting vehicle here... looks about as clean as can be. Not sure I would want a navy grey Mutt, or a red fire truck mutt either, but this one deserves a lot a credit for the high level of restoration. No photo's of the underside either and does it look like ROPS was once installed?

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Unread post by rickf » February 24th, 2021, 6:36 pm

Looks like it has the holes in the side for a fording exhaust and up front for the fording intake. Has all of the marine accoutrements on it except for the fording hardware under the hood. The mattock instead of an axe is strange, I don't know if that is normal for Navy? The vapor return line that is supposed to be hooked to the carb appears to be going to the air cleaner. he is making a left turn.
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Re: Navy Mutt - Barrett-Jackson

Unread post by halftracknut » February 24th, 2021, 10:20 pm

Pictures can fool a person but I think I see styling compound in both floor boards and a hot rod chrome fuel filter ... :lol:
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Re: Navy Mutt - Barrett-Jackson

Unread post by acudanut » February 25th, 2021, 2:29 am

Well it can't be a AM General if it's a 1970 and no such thing as A2 in 1970 I believe. Ford made these until 1971. In 1972 AM General took over the contract. This Mutt is not a 1970/ bogas VIN.

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Unread post by muttguru » February 25th, 2021, 7:06 am

Well, it is an AMG-built vehicle but it isn't a 1970....as Acudanut has already spotted.
I'd date it as late 1972 up to mid-73. The serial number doesn't link with the few I already have and the dataplate on the dash is a re-pop....the USN dataplates are normally very elaborate and in brass, too.

Nevertheless, it does look very nice !
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Re: Navy Mutt - Barrett-Jackson

Unread post by rickf » February 25th, 2021, 9:52 am

acudanut wrote:
February 25th, 2021, 2:29 am
Well it can't be a AM General if it's a 1970 and no such thing as A2 in 1970 I believe. Ford made these until 1971. In 1972 AM General took over the contract. This Mutt is not a 1970/ bogas VIN.
There was an A2 in 1970, made by Ford with the odd front fenders. Ford made the A2 until mid 71 I believe. But the A2 started in 1970.
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Unread post by Mark » February 25th, 2021, 10:25 am

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I had thought the A2 was built in 1969, by AMG but looks like it was by Ford, lot of answers on the Web.By the way, my A2 was built in 1980
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Unread post by acudanut » February 25th, 2021, 10:43 pm

If it's a real 1970, it was made by Ford. Mutt Guru already confirmed this. Yes I was was wrong when the A2 First Came out. I forget. forgive me.

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Unread post by acudanut » February 25th, 2021, 10:48 pm

1951 to 1959 Ford had the development contract for designing & building the M151.

1960 to 1962 Ford has the contract for delivery of the M151.

1962 to 1964 Willys Motors won the contract to build the next batch of M151s During that contract, the Military amended the contract with Willys Motors so that the model A1 could be built. Part-way through that contract, Willys Motors was subsumed by Kaiser Jeep.

1964 to 1971. Ford won the next contracts to build the M151A1.
By 1967 Ralph Nader was campaigning for auto-safety and was targeting the M151A1 as "Inherently Unsafe". The Military reacted to this by asking Ford to develop a safer version of the M151A1.
Ford considered various options and in 1968 produced test-versions of the safer model (which would become the M151A2). Defense Sec Mel Laird insisted on thorough testing of the pilot vehicles and the M151A2 was finally approved for production in December 1969/January 1970. Ford stopped production of the A1 model near the end of 1969 and changed over to production of the A2 model, producing the now type-approved M151A2 with first deliveries to the military in March 1970, by Ford.

In late 1971, the M151A2 contract renewal came up for bid but Ford lost the new contract to AM General, who produced the M151A2 into the early 1980's. I have one of the last A2's made by Ford in 1971.

Kaiser and Willys never produced the M151A2, but Kaiser was subsumed into American Motors Corp in 1970 and AMC at that time was re-named AM General.

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Re: Navy Mutt - Barrett-Jackson

Unread post by Mark » February 25th, 2021, 11:25 pm

Good info, thanks for posting it.
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Re: Navy Mutt - Barrett-Jackson

Unread post by acudanut » February 26th, 2021, 3:10 pm

Mark wrote:
February 25th, 2021, 11:25 pm
Good info, thanks for posting it.
Thanks Mark, but it was just old news. No credits on my end. Muttguru is the historian.

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Re: Navy Mutt - Barrett-Jackson

Unread post by fowlercal » February 27th, 2021, 4:29 pm

Hey Guys,

My brother (also a member here on g838) and I did the restoration on this Navy A2. We found it in New Hampshire in a detached garage/barn. It is uncut and had very few dents. Relative of the deceased previous owner said the A2 had been sitting in the barn for more than 20 years. It was partially assembled at the time. It was painted glossy Haze Gray and had Navy markings already. The relative said it was acquired long ago by the owner who had marked the hood and bumpers with insignia of a destroyer USS Johnston, DD-281, that he had served on during his Navy career.
We assembled the A2 to make it roll, and had a car transporter deliver it to Dallas/Ft Worth area, to begin on the restoration It came with a garage load of NOS parts and equipment.
The A2 did not have a title, so we tried to obtain a title from Texas DMV. There were no data plates of any kind. There was a riveted and welded plate from Delaware on the left mid frame member. Tex DMV would not accept this for registration plate and told us to look for a number on the rear spare tire mount. We found the number and reapplied to DMV. They said it indicated the A2 was a AM General made in 1970. Not wanting to argue with the DMV, they issued a title for the A2 with the 1970 date of manufacture. That is why it is listed as a 1970, not a big deal. The hood number is marked 94-, denoting the Navy numbering system indicating a 1/4 ton vehicle. The numbers after that were part of the numbers on the title when issued by DMV. In Texas, you can use the hood number without a license plate, which we did. There was not a charcoal canister for emissions control, and no mounting holes in the firewall, so probably (maybe) a 1970 to 1973 model. We were unable to find a Navy data plate so used a regular AM General reproduction plate with info from Muttguru’s research for Contract Numbers and other fields on the Dataplate.
The A2 was sanded down and repainted flat Haze Gray after all dents were removed. Assembled it with mostly NOS parts, after opening the engine to check it out. All looked good. We drove it around for a while and eventually put it up for sale on David Uhrig’s site armyjeeps.net
It was bought by the owner of a private airport in Arizona.
When the A2 was sold, it had the proper vapor return line as Rick pointed out. It looks like the new owner made some other changes in fuel lines. Also, when it left our possession, it had a real axe on it, and the gas can was mounted correctly. No panels were replaced and no bondo was used. The pictures on the Barrett-Jackson site are a true and accurate representation (except for fuel lines) of how it was sold.

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Re: Navy Mutt - Barrett-Jackson

Unread post by rickf » February 27th, 2021, 8:22 pm

halftracknut wrote:
February 24th, 2021, 10:20 pm
Pictures can fool a person but I think I see styling compound in both floor boards and a hot rod chrome fuel filter ... :lol:
It was one of those exact fuel filters that caused a ton of problems for a former member here driving home from Aberdeen to the NJ shore one year. It simply stopped flowing gas although it was perfectly clean. I took the filter apart several times and there was nothing in it. Finally put it together without the media in it and bang, ran like a top! I called Summit and told them they could keep their cheap Chinese junk and I have never bought another accessory from them since. I think what it came down to was the alcohol in the gas that they had just started using about that time melted the plastic filter media and that is what created the clog. Plain quality clear plastic filters are the best ones, they use good old fashioned paper elements just like the metal filters. And they are plenty large enough to absorb a lot of crap and still flow well.
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Re: Navy Mutt - Barrett-Jackson

Unread post by acudanut » February 27th, 2021, 9:29 pm

Thanks Fowler for the clarification. Seems Mutts with a correct VIN plate are very rare. My 71 Ford is another example. Thankfully it still had the original BUDD tag on it. Cheers

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Re: Navy Mutt - Barrett-Jackson

Unread post by Sledge303 » March 5th, 2021, 11:42 pm

This is my first post here...

This particular vehicle was offered for sale in Peoria AZ. thru CRAIGSLIST at the end of January!
I tried everything to get a hold of the seller, even figured out the airport it was stored at.
I travel to Phoenix on business and have a good friend in the area, so payment and retrieval were not an issue.
Seller finally responded to me after it was sold.
At the time I was really quite dissapointed, now hearing it came out of NH (where I grew up) brings back that feeling!
Since missing this I located another MUTT in California and that time the seller responded!
I did save the pictures from the AZ CRAIGSLIST advert.
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