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What to look for when buying a M-151

Postby muttguru » February 2nd, 2018, 10:53 am

When potential buyers have contacted me asking for advice about buying an M151-series vehicle, I have invariably sent the guidance you see below. Unfortunately the urge to buy a vehicle is sometimes so strong that the "mandatory" thorough checks are either rushed or forgotten about. Rick....I'd like to see this advice added as a "sticky note" on this board.... or maybe other owners can chime in and add to it.
Ken
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ADVICE FOR NEW BUYER: Updated 05-Feb-2018
Please be careful before you buy your Mutt. So many people have bought one without knowing exactly what they are getting, then discovered that they have bought a whole bunch of problems. Here's some brief advice (come back for more at any time !!!)......

1. Which model is it? Be careful about dataplate information....... there are lots of Mutts running around with a reproduction data plate (or one from a different model).......Is it an M151? or an M151A1, or an M151A2?. Get a Technical Manual and read it thoroughly first.

2. There is no chassis on the Mutt, so the underbody condition is CRITICAL. The box-sections underneath are HIGHLY PRONE to rusting. Check and double-check the condition. Ex-USMC vehicles are notorious for rust-through....you can guess why !

3. From around 1969, all Mutts were subject to demil / mutilation prior to release. The early regulations insisted that the vehicle be cut into two. Many have been re-welded. Some have been cut into 4 (an X-cut). I'd be very wary about buying an x-cut vehicle.... but a half-cut vehicle can be very good if the re-weld has been properly done. Is this a re-weld? Make certain.
Check thoroughly before purchase and remember... an uncut example is ALWAYS worth more than a re-welded version.

4. As there is always some "cloud of doubt" over whether the Mutt was legally released, make sure that yours has a VALID title. If it doesn't have a title, you may have trouble getting it registered in some States.

5. All models prior to the M151A2 have peculiar handling characteristics that can cause real problems when operated by drivers who don't know about the vehicle. An M151A2 is a much safer truck altogether.

6. On the "plus" side (yes.... there is one !!!)........ parts are cheap and plentiful (but beware of some poor-quality offshore-made parts)...... many excellent replacement body panels have now become available with more to follow..... the vehicle is the best-looking one since the wartime jeep....... it is easy to work on, and a good example holds its value. They are becoming increasingly collectible.

If I were you, I'd go look at a few (at Military Vehicle shows etc) and talk to the owners. No doubt you will get their unbiased advice and help!!!

***MOST IMPORTANT*** I cannot stress this enough !!!
Read the Technical Manual (get hold of the Drivers manual, as a start... TM 9-2320-218-10).
The other relevant TMs are:-

TM 9-2320-218-20 Organisational Maintenance
TM 9-2320-218-20P Organisational Parts List
TM 9-2320-218-34 Direct and General Support Maintenance
TM 9-2320-218-34P Direct and General Support Parts List
LO 9-2320-218-12 Lubrication Order

The -20-series manuals generally cover regular maintenance tasks.
The -34-series manuals generally cover major rebuild (electrical items, carburettor, engine, transmission etc)

Now, how to go about finding one? First off, get hold of the two magazines which have dozens of military-vehicle classified ads....the two I suggest are:-

1. Supply Line
2. Military Vehicles Magazine - USA
3. The G503 "M151 For Sale" notice board
4. And of course the "For Sale" board here on the G838
5. If you have a local "Craigslist", M151s do turn up for sale. But please use caution and common sense when buying.
6. For those of us in Europe, Milweb.net has a classified ad section and regularly has M151s for sale.
Ken
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Last edited by muttguru on February 5th, 2018, 9:43 am, edited 3 times in total.
Kind regards....
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Re: Advice on how to buy a M-151

Postby rickf » February 4th, 2018, 2:31 pm

Added by suggestion of Surveyor.

While this webpage covers after purchase i think many of the things stated are also what should be looked at prior to... maybe worth an addition to his thread?

http://www.militarytrader.com/military- ... its-a-mutt
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Re: Advice on how to buy a M-151

Postby muttguru » February 4th, 2018, 3:46 pm

rickf wrote:Added by suggestion of Surveyor.
While this webpage covers after purchase i think many of the things stated are also what should be looked at prior to... maybe worth an addition to his thread?
http://www.militarytrader.com/military- ... its-a-mutt


Rick....agreed !
As a special bonus for potential mutt buyers....and for owners too..... here's the "Be Your Own Inspector" from PS Magazine. TACOM also issued this as a booklet in black-and-white, but this is the color version.
Enjoy......
Ken

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Re: Advice on how to buy a M-151

Postby Mark » February 4th, 2018, 6:25 pm

The 1st thing I did was look underneath to see if it had been cut in half/rewelded.I didn't pay attention to holes/rust damage on the channels!!This was on the 151.Of course I was very much a novice mutt man, back in 2009, of course I was a little excited as you didn't see mutts in my part of the country.
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Re: Advice on how to buy a M-151

Postby lpcoating » February 5th, 2018, 6:15 am

We have plenty of body parts on the shelf and more coming out. :D

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M151 Body Panels - http://www.m151bodypanels.com/

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Re: Advice on how to buy a M-151

Postby muttguru » February 5th, 2018, 9:29 am

lpcoating wrote:We have plenty of body parts on the shelf and more coming out. :D Guy


Hello Guy....

Me and Rick discussed this very point. I explained that although this summary was accurate at the time, things have changed....certainly as far as the scarcity of body panels is concerned. We also discussed other updates such as "How to pay for a vehicle" and "How to avoid being scammed". These additions may be included later but I can update the "body panels" section right now ! Thanks for reminding me. :D
Ken
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Re: What to look for when buying a M-151

Postby rickf » February 5th, 2018, 10:32 am

I want this to be a STRICTLY what to look for thread. I don't want duplicate posts or personal experiences. Just what to look for. Once we start getting the inevitable run on I will lock the thread. This one is going to be for info only, we have all the others for our usual banter and running on of threads. This is for the new guy looking for basic info.
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Re: What to look for when buying a M-151

Postby submariner2 » November 11th, 2018, 12:12 pm

Thank you for this infofmation on the M-151 I can't registar my M-151A1 here in Oregon because of the data plate missing numbers . I am goin g to try and get my money back for selling me a vehicle without the right documents..
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