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Pls advice A2 marking

Post by Andrew » November 23rd, 2020, 2:09 pm

Hello everybody,

after some tunning of my A2 ( rear diff. change, shock absorbers, new rear tyres, etc..) I would like to make next step - car marking.

My intention is M 151 A2 serving in West Germany, close to (former) Czechoslovakian border, in 1977 - 85 year.
I don´t know which divisions were located there ( 1. or 2. infantry, or some paratroopers??)
I don´t know how exactly the division's, battalion, regiment's numbers were lined up on vehicle.
I will mark hood, bumpers front and rear.

I will be happy for any advice.

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Post by Mr. Recovery » November 23rd, 2020, 6:23 pm

"The 2nd ACR served along the East German and Czechoslovakian geopolitical borders for the remainder of the Cold War, until 1992. Throughout this period"

I was with the 2nd Armored Cavalry from 1961 to 1964 we did the border patrol along the Czech line around Hof Germany, our base was in Bindlach just north of Bayreuth, if you do face book check out the 2nd Armored Cavalry page. https://www.facebook.com/groups/2dACR

here's another link with some good reading. https://history.army.mil/documents/BorderOps/ch5.htm

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Re: Pls advice A2 marking

Post by rickf » November 23rd, 2020, 9:18 pm

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't they stop marking the outsides of the vehicles except for subdued bumper markings in the mid 70's?
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Re: Pls advice A2 marking

Post by Mr. Recovery » November 23rd, 2020, 9:53 pm

rickf wrote:
November 23rd, 2020, 9:18 pm
Correct me if I am wrong but didn't they stop marking the outsides of the vehicles except for subdued bumper markings in the mid 70's?

You are correct, no markings with cammo or flat black if any were needed. :roll:

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Re: Pls advice A2 marking

Post by Andrew » November 24th, 2020, 10:25 am

Dan, Mark, thank you for your comment and advice. I see that 2nd ACR still exists, located in Vilseck, Germany.
Based on your comment, it doesn't make sence to put marking on A2? I will not apply camo, just whole green oliv color.

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Re: Pls advice A2 marking

Post by rickf » November 24th, 2020, 10:34 am

Go to the top of this page and look for the G838 manuals link, go there and scroll down to VEHICLE PAINT & MARKINGS, CAMOFLAGE. You will find several manuals there that will give you a lot of the information you are looking for.
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Re: Pls advice A2 marking

Post by Mr. Recovery » November 24th, 2020, 1:47 pm

Andrew wrote:
November 24th, 2020, 10:25 am
Dan, Mark, thank you for your comment and advice. I see that 2nd ACR still exists, located in Vilseck, Germany.
Based on your comment, it doesn't make sence to put marking on A2? I will not apply camo, just whole green oliv color.

Andrew, here are some photos of 151's in Germany in the 70's most have the Digital paint, if you enlarge the photos you can see flat black bumper markings on most of them, the all OD ones also have flat black.
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Re: Pls advice A2 marking

Post by Andrew » November 24th, 2020, 4:57 pm

Dan, thank's a lot for your support. Look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQPFrlg2qgs&t=793s.
Probably you know this short film. This is exactly, what I'm looking for.

Regards.

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Post by Mr. Recovery » November 24th, 2020, 10:24 pm

1st time I have seen that one, here's another link with some good photos of Markings . 8)

https://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums ... mid-1970s/
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Re: Pls advice A2 marking

Post by Horst » November 25th, 2020, 5:04 am

Dan,

on that picture with the whole motorpool, that first jeep in the front corner really pulls a trailer behind a trailer?
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Re: Pls advice A2 marking

Post by Mr. Recovery » November 25th, 2020, 12:15 pm

Horst wrote:
November 25th, 2020, 5:04 am
Dan,

on that picture with the whole motorpool, that first jeep in the front corner really pulls a trailer behind a trailer?
YES!! I was waiting to see if anyone noticed that. You win the All Seeing Eye award! :lol: :lol:
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A2 marking - hood nubmer

Post by Andrew » December 17th, 2020, 1:59 pm

After search about marking details I still have one open issue.
What is hood number ( for example 2B8722) ?

P.S. Rick you are right, since middle of 70. hood number
was not applied because of camo.

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Re: Pls advice A2 marking

Post by rickf » December 17th, 2020, 3:52 pm

The hood number is the vehicle number that is located on the vehicle data plate on the dash
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
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Post by lpcoating » December 17th, 2020, 10:03 pm

Mr. Recovery wrote:
November 25th, 2020, 12:15 pm
Horst wrote:
November 25th, 2020, 5:04 am
Dan,

on that picture with the whole motorpool, that first jeep in the front corner really pulls a trailer behind a trailer?
YES!! I was waiting to see if anyone noticed that. You win the All Seeing Eye award! :lol: :lol:

Is there an official mount for doing tandem trailers like that or was this custom job?

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Re: Pls advice A2 marking

Post by Mr. Recovery » December 18th, 2020, 11:00 pm

Guy, To my knowledge it was a field mod , just bolting a pintle hook on the back with a support plate?? or now days use this! 8)
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