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Postby Husker » September 18th, 2016, 5:54 pm

So with the amount of rust and missing metal on my 151 it's never going to be perfect but I want it to get to the point where it could be sitting ready in a motor pool in Germany waiting to be used on a patrol.


I have posted a bunch of random things in the technical section about remove this or taking apart that so this will consolidate everything. Now that I have photo bucket there will be a bunch of pictures
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Re: Motor pool restoration

Postby Husker » September 18th, 2016, 5:57 pm

Most of these are pictures I took a week or so ago

So far I have striped apart most of the engine
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Lots of rust in the water jacket
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Water pump mounting point
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Re: Motor pool restoration

Postby Husker » September 18th, 2016, 6:03 pm

As some of you have helped me with here is the transmission

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I have ordered new seals and gaskets for the transmission and engine

And will be having the head serviced since I don't have the tools to do it. May get the engine done to but it actually looks pretty good minus the water jacket rust. Ha haven't looked at the cam or lower end yet though.

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Re: Motor pool restoration

Postby Husker » September 18th, 2016, 6:11 pm

Today I got the front suspension free from the Jeep and removed the hubs bearings and brakes. Tried to get the springs and shocks out but they just didn't want to come off.
You can see the rust holes in my engine bay
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First drum and all parts are free took a big of reading to figure out how to get the bearings and back plate off.
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Whole assembly free from the jeep
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Turns out those engine rust holes became big suspension rust hole. But at least I got all the brakes and hubs off. The steering knuckle won't come off the ball joints I hoped the spring tension would help it off but to no luck.
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Well that's all I got to today.
Hopefully more parts will keep arriving as my paycheck just goes to the mutt
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Re: Motor pool restoration

Postby rickf » September 18th, 2016, 7:12 pm

You do not want to play around with those springs without compressors or having the subframe mounted and a jack under the lower control arm before taking the ball joint loose. If that joint pops loose without restraint on the spring very bad things are going to happen.
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Re: Motor pool restoration

Postby Husker » September 18th, 2016, 8:15 pm

That's what I was concerned about
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Re: Motor pool restoration

Postby m3a1 » September 18th, 2016, 10:19 pm

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Re: Motor pool restoration

Postby Horst » September 19th, 2016, 12:06 am

that is actually not a lot of rust in the engine. I have seen way worse. Make sure that you remove all freeze plugs and take a welding rod or similar and scrape out as much rust as you can and then flush it good.
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Re: Motor pool restoration

Postby fergrn37 » September 19th, 2016, 9:53 am

Another way to get rust out of areas where your hand won't fit is to use an old motorcycle control cable and a drill. Chuck up the Cable and put it into restricted recess. 'Drill' away. Breaks up rust by beating it to death.
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Re: Motor pool restoration

Postby m3a1 » September 19th, 2016, 3:07 pm

End of the summer and fall is a great time to find a power washer on sale. I'm not saying you should use it on the engine necessarily, but looks like there's a lot of surfaces on your project that could use some serious hosing.

If that were my engine project, and if I were going to be the guy who was tearing it down and building it back up I'd be making a few calls to some reputable places who rebuild engines and finding out if they would be willing to tank it for an affordable amount of money. Some minor rust in the cooling system isn't going to kill an engine but gummed up oil galleries sure as **** will. This is not the time for more cowbell. This is the time where opening your wallet (or not) can have far-reaching consequences. Starting a build up with a perfectly clean block is a HUGE bonus (not to mention they look sexy in the nude!) :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Motor pool restoration

Postby Husker » January 14th, 2017, 9:06 pm

Made great strides today on my engine it is almost completely striped down on the stand I just need to remove the crankshaft for the pushrods

All pistons are out and labeled and exterior components have been slowly cleaned and painted

I was wondering what you all would recommend for the metal of the engine itself should I bring the block and head and get it shaved and honed? Have the crankshaft refinished? And then if I do where do I go from there with the original pistons and rings?
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Re: Motor pool restoration

Postby rickf » January 15th, 2017, 9:07 am

It all depends on the condition of what you have, If there is no ridge in the top of the cylinders and there is still some of the original crosshatching visible in the cylinders then I would leave the block alone. Clean it and use it. How do the rod and main bearings look? If there is no wear and you have kept them in their respective positions then they can go right back together. If there is some wear then replace them with the same size, if they are worn bad then it will be a good idea to have the crankshaft checked and the cam bearings replaced. If the bearings are worn bad that means either there are a whole lot of miles on the engine or the oil was not changed as it should have been or it was beat on hard. You will have to check all of the rotating parts and determine what is good and what is bad. Especially check the camshaft lobes for excessive wear along with the lifters.
If you do not have the tools or knowledge to do this then it is best to send the engine out to a shop to have it checked out.
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Re: Motor pool restoration

Postby Husker » January 15th, 2017, 1:10 pm

Probably a good idea the cylinders don't really have any cross hatching that I can see but all other items are smooth and don't have any odd or abnormal wear
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Re: Motor pool restoration

Postby Husker » July 9th, 2017, 9:27 am

[url=http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/Robinson_Rifle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/76E02C50-AE7D-4203-8AD2-6CF1589E9919_zpshefbbdzb.jpg.html]Image

I finished one side of the rear suspension a few days ago and now have springs for the brakes as well hoping to do the other side today and it's wheel bearings maybe next weekend

The brake line tool I got did a good job [url=http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/Robinson_Rifle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/62D641D8-F9A2-4885-9E30-D5F8A4CBF287_zpsgne50sue.jpg.html]Image

Next time I think I will get better quality brake lines
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Re: Motor pool restoration

Postby rickf » July 9th, 2017, 11:54 am

It appears that the flaring tool is galling as it flares, that should not happen, use some brake fluid as a lubricant as you are doing the flaring operation.

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