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Re: Alley Cat 151

Postby m3a1 » June 15th, 2017, 8:16 pm

Today I took the rear differential out of the Alley Cat. There was clear evidence that it had been leaking but I had an idea that it might be in much better internal condition than the differential in my A2 which continues to make some rather discouraging noises. So I got up under there and, after removing the left axle, gave her guts a spin and it felt like it was running much tighter than my A2's differential. So I plucked it out and got it up where I could play with it a bit.

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I scraped it down with that dull knife I keep in the toolbox and followed up with a wire brush, then some PB Blaster and a tooth brush and a bit more scraping here and there. Wiped it all down and power-washed it, keeping the focal point of the spray nozzle well clear of the seals. Hit it with some degreaser, scrubbed it and power-washed it all over again. After some primer and paint, this is what she looks like! Sexy, eh?

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Once the paint cures I'll be going in and renewing the seals. I cannot seem to get the drain plug to come loose. Its stubborn-ness is being compounded by the fact that the differential isn't mounted in the truck so I can't get much leverage on it. I'll try it again when I get it back in the truck.

Author's Note: After putting this in the A2, I still couldn't get that plug loose! As a result, I wasn't able to see what the lube looked like inside this contraption so, I will share with you and couple of thoughts. I should have flipped it over and drained it through the fill-plug. I got distracted by some other things going on around here and wasn't thinking about what I was doing. As a result, I forged ahead with my original plan to remove the plug once it was back in the truck which is not a wholly unreasonable plan, right? Well, guess what. WRONG! I put the rear end in and I couldn't get the drain plug out...and I wanted to drive my truck. I really wanted to drive my truck! I have been limping along with a horrible rear differential ever since I got the A2. So basically, I threw caution and good sense right out the window. I put this component into service without really knowing what I had in there for lube. It felt good and smooth while turning it by hand but the bottom of that differential could have been filled with peanut butter, for all I knew. Things worked out OK but it was actually a roll of the dice and I really don't enjoy operating like that. So, here I am, two days later and the plug is still grimly hanging in there. I have scraped away the paint around it and am dosing it daily with PB Blaster and running the truck but only barely. All that lube and all those micro vibrations should help it come loose. I think being patient with it is really going to be what is needed to get it loose and I won't have to tear up the plug by forcing it.
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Re: Alley Cat 151

Postby m3a1 » June 16th, 2017, 1:46 pm

i got into the seals on the output shafts as they appeared to be the primary sources for the leaks which were enormous. I once posted that you should never, ever assume that the guy who had been in there before you was an Ace Mechanic. And here we have something to back that statement up.

The output shafts leaked like sieves because no one installed the seal sleeves on the flanges! In short, the seals were larger than the neck of the flange. Oh, they touched...but only just a little bit as we can see from the highly polished wear marks. If you are new to this, the nicely machined surfaces on the flanges are not the surface that mates with the seal. You have GOT to have a sleeve on there!

In this picture we see the undressed flange, with a new seal sleeve as yet uninstalled. The seal sleeve is going to be pressed over the neck of the flange. It is a very precise fit. The chamfered (or tapered) edge is the leading edge of the seal sleeve; the part that would come into contact with the new seal first when you reinstall the flange. It serves to ease the seal sleeve into the seal without damaging it. You may have noticed that the neck of the flange also has a chamfered edge.
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Here's the old seal, still in place. Poor thing. It never really had a chance to do it's duty. :cry:

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And here's a Public Service Announcement for the last guy who worked on this!

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New seals and sleeves installed and, with that done, the whole thing got a repaint.

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I can't wait to get this into my A2!! :D :D :D Maybe I should have gone ahead and replaced the input and tail shaft seals as well but evidence suggests they were still good. If they fail, my penance will be to replace them with the differential still in the truck.
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Re: Alley Cat 151

Postby rickf » June 16th, 2017, 3:45 pm

You should take that vent out and clean it out real good while it right there in front of you.
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Re: Alley Cat 151

Postby m3a1 » June 16th, 2017, 3:53 pm

Excellent idea! The cap is kind of banged up but it still moves and it is springy. Or, I may just swap it out for a brand new one.
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Re: Alley Cat 151

Postby m3a1 » May 12th, 2018, 8:54 pm

Ok, it's been a while on this project. So much going on around here but we are out from under some dark clouds family-health-wise and my mechanic's curiosity is up and I'm feeling wrenchy.

The Alley Cat never really made it to the front burner and truth be told, I've never actually had this truck running though I have it from a trusted source that it was. It's just been sitting around here since I got it, donating an occasional kidney or lung here and there and that has got to stop.

I have achieved most of what I wanted to do on the A2 and my son's M38 has occupied most of my time and my beloved half track is presently out of reach. So, to keep things fresh, I'm going to do a few things to prep the Alley Cat for a start up. I think it's all A1 under there with the notable exception of the suspension which is A2 (thank heavens).

Marvel Mystery Oil has been in the cylinders for some time now, not because of any known problems but because it's good practice... and the distributor is going to need a coil (and guess what I just found at the bottom of a box of stuff!) and I have to repair some wiring at the starter switch and I may just hot wire the ignition switch to ON as I don't believe I ever had the keys for it...unless another master power switch presents itself.

Since I've had it, two issues surfaced that are the most likely cause of the Alley Cat having been orphaned. The right rear wheel bearings (a problem which has been remedied and documented on this thread) and the faulty wiring at the starter switch (which is about to be remedied).

There is the issue of a carburetor (there is none installed presently but, if I have good results starting it without a carb, I'll get a kit, rebuild it and we'll see what develops. All this is in direct violation of my usual rule of having working brakes on a vehicle before anything else happens but, I DO have a new master cylinder installed already so the worst job of the brakes has been rectified already. So, if everything runs reasonably well, I'll wrap the brakes up with all new bits.

Meanwhile, having fallen prey to PhotoBucket's shenanigans, I'll try to resurrect the photos on this thread and freshen it up.

Never a dull moment around this place!

Cheers,
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Re: Alley Cat 151

Postby m3a1 » May 15th, 2018, 9:01 pm

Made a little headway today on the old Alley Cat. I FINALLY managed to resurrect most of the photos I took so long ago. Those photos were supposed to jog my memory and happily, the ones that I finally unearthed, did. Filling in the blanks took some long staring (and a few beers helped) but I'm pretty sure I got the starter button hooked up correctly. If not, it'll be an awesome fire when the time comes. :lol:

Pawing through some of the parts trunks assigned to the M151s, I found some very interesting parts...stuff that I had forgotten I purchased. Some of it was parts meant to make the Alley Cat more MUTT-ish and some of it was parts that are just very good to have kept in reserve. It's always like Christmas when I get into those trunks.

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