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Re: Swamp Buggy

Postby Surveyor » January 2nd, 2016, 4:59 pm

Understood. It should be in the 70's next weekend. I'll try and give it a go then. Spent a little time on it this morning. After finding a deep enough socket I was able to remove the plugs and turn the engine by hand. +1. Would it be possible that they would have used neon orange on ones that were used for evaluation for some reason? The Halloween colors are a head scratcher.
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Postby rickf » January 2nd, 2016, 10:37 pm

Neon orange? On what? That outer casing of the plug or the electrodes?
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Postby Surveyor » January 2nd, 2016, 10:55 pm

Negative. I saw the wire ends you speak of but I mean the vehicle itself. The lowest layer of paint on the body appears to be a dark od green much like the newly refurbed gas tank. Then it appears that the body and rims were painted black and neon orange - see earlier posts. I thought at first it was the red primer showing through and discolored but that would not explain why it peels off the "original" od green on the body. Then it appears that someone painted the body the od green you see now but it's quite faded and looks to be brushed on and not sprayed. You should be able to make out the neon orange and black on the front driver rim in the first pic but i see it in quite a few other places as well. You can see the black on the dash near where it looks like a hole was cut for a radio with stencil letters on top. Just curious to see if that would have been done to vehicles being tested and for what reason.... how does that tie into the black windows as mentioned in earlier post? or is this like asking the old tootsie roll pop question?
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Postby rickf » January 3rd, 2016, 11:15 am

They came from the factory green and the govt. never painted them any bright colors other than when using them as targets. I don't think neon paint was even around in the early 60's. They did paint some outlandish numbers on them but that was in white. Unfortunately if that is a first coat it means that it was probably stripped and repainted in civilian life. That was not usually done years ago, they were usually just painted over. And the brush painting was very common in the military.
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Postby Surveyor » January 3rd, 2016, 8:30 pm

From the sounds of it. I'm the 3rd owner post service life. Kerogane, prior to me, is still friends with the 1st and is going to try and get some back history on it. Other than that, maybe back in the day they really wanted to have a '42 and settled instead. :D

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Postby rickf » January 4th, 2016, 9:07 am

You laugh, I worked at a drag strip for many years and saw several Jeeps just like that with monster engines. Two wheel drive only though but real fast and real squirrely!
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Postby Surveyor » January 6th, 2016, 10:55 am

Here's a pic of the other one that Kerogane had for sale. Said I'd post it here to help him out. I believe he was asking $2500 but don't hold me to that. I do not have a pic of the old Willy's one he spoke of. He stated uncut. He posts on the G503 board.

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Postby Surveyor » January 8th, 2016, 5:06 pm

Tried the paint removal technique as recommended on the hood but it looks like the hood was stripped or not original. Nothing under the green that I can see. I did try it on the front bumper and had better luck but it does not appear to be the vin but a unit designation. It starts 2Δ but the rest is illegible.

Edit.... In the right light it appears to read 2Δ 4 CAV.

Engine turns over with starter but no fire so more work on that needed and the tranny shift feels like it's in neutral but it's actually stuck in one of the forward gears. Beginning to wonder if just getting a replacement would be cheaper and easier in the long run. Thoughts?
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Postby rickf » January 8th, 2016, 5:24 pm

Just need to do some basic trouble shooting on the engine and the transmission. Pull the shifter out and see if all of the shift forks are lined up, I will bet one is not. Poke the shifter or a big screwdriver into that one and get it in the center with the rest of them and you will be in neutral. On the engine the first thing you need to do is find out if you are getting power to the distributor and then if you are getting it into the distributor. This is all easy basic stuff and a hell of a lot cheaper than an engine or transmission.
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Postby Surveyor » January 8th, 2016, 11:58 pm

Understood. Biggest engines I ever worked on before were 5hp b&s's. New territory for me but I did want a challenge. Thanks.
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Postby rickf » January 9th, 2016, 11:24 am

No problem, that is what we are here for. If you get stuck we can help. You can also PM me a phone number and I can talk you through a problem if need be. I am curious, your username, Surveyor, is that your profession? I was a stickman down in that area back in the early 70's. La., Fla. panhandle, up through Kentucky and Tenn.. I got to know a lot of gators and Hillbilly's on a first name basis. I found the gators to be a bit more amicable than the Hillbilly's! :lol:
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Postby Surveyor » January 9th, 2016, 7:36 pm

PM's sent. Thanks. Update on bumper - I think it reads 2Δ 4 CAV.
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Re: Swamp Buggy

Postby rickf » January 10th, 2016, 10:39 am

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Re: Swamp Buggy

Postby Surveyor » January 30th, 2016, 11:35 pm

Well made some headway today. New radiator hoses and cap, choke cable, coil, swiss ignition, spliced in a new distributor connection, and soldered a new connecting wire to the capacitor. The old wire was so brittle it just came off at the end and the connector wire was the same. New wire harnesses will be needed at some point. Got fire to all four plug wires but only 3 of the spark plugs work.

Tested the cheap fuel pump. It fired up and it pulled gas from a small gas tank and looped it right back in but I'm concerned that it runs all the time. At some point someone added an "ignition key" which actually just turns on the fuel pump. It's an Airtex E8012S. I don't see anything mentioned online about pressure relief and the psi range reads 5.5 to 9. Just seems to me that it would have a good chance of flood out. I don't see too many positive reviews on it either. Any suggestions on a replacement? When I do try for a first start what would be the best settings for a zenith carb? I see only the idle mixture and throttle adjust screws and I don't see a recommended start position in the TM -20. I'm guessing 2 1/2 turns from bottom?


3 - Clean and gap the spark plugs (3 down)
4 - If it runs set the timing.
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Re: Swamp Buggy

Postby rickf » January 31st, 2016, 10:49 am

DAMN! Someone who is following the list! I like this guy!!! The fuel pump will stop running once pressure is built up but 9 lbs. is too much. Try it and see what happens. 2 - 2 1/2 turns on the idle mixture if it is a 12480 carb or 6 -8 if it is a 13660 with the recessed idle screw will be good to start. Really as long as it is backed out enough that it gets gas to idle you are good to start and warm up and then you can worry about idle mixture after that. Which carb is it? It wouldn't hurt too pour a little transmission fluid on the valve stems to get them lubed and freed up before trying to start it if it has not been run for a long time. Tranny fluid ha a high content of detergents in it to help dissolve varnish on the valve stems while also lubricating them. At the same time it will not harm anything by getting in the crankcase. You don't need a lot.
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