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Re: 1964 M151 Kaiser

Postby Vzike » September 28th, 2016, 7:34 am

AXLE Shafts and Ujoints

You will love this one! When I pulled the wheel bearings in the above post, I noticed the ujoint was tight. On inspecting, it appears the idiot who once had this truck, lost the C clips on the outside of this axle, so he welded the cap to the axle end.
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Re: 1964 M151 Kaiser

Postby rickf » September 28th, 2016, 8:47 am

Back when axles where a dime a dozen that was no big deal, I used to tack weld the ones on my big Ford to keep from spitting them out while four wheeling.
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Re: 1964 M151 Kaiser

Postby Vzike » October 1st, 2016, 9:39 am

That is interesting, Rick. The welds were light, so they may not have affected the cap.

Here is another find. As I inspected and worked on the steering linkage, I found the usual finish nails used in place of cotter pins, but this one was a first. Bubba apparently had only small/long/thin cotter pins. They were small enough so the heads slid easily through the holes. To remedy this, he put one cotter pin through the hole in the other, then bent them both back after installation. Here is the pic:

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Re: 1964 M151 Kaiser

Postby Vzike » October 1st, 2016, 9:47 am

When I inspected the wheels closely, I found they were all missing wear rings. The wheels made noise when I drove it in August, so I pulled them off and checked the bearings. All looked like they had been in an acid bath. The bearings and races all had pitting patterned with the "grain" of the metal. All had to be replaced. Most of the wheel seals were either missing or damaged. The wheels had about 3/8th of an inch play in the wiggle check, grabbing them from left to right. Same top to bottom. I got new wheel bearings from Front Line, and replaced them and installed new seals. Am I the only one who manages to destroy wheel seals on installation?

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1964 M151 Kaiser Uncut FOR SALE
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Re: 1964 M151 Kaiser

Postby Vzike » October 1st, 2016, 9:58 am

You'll notice in that last picture that the brake drum is on.

I replaced all the drums with a set of drums I measured out and had turned. I put in new shoes and was going to leave it at that, until I got to the front. Both front wheel cylinders had damaged rubbers, so I pulled the back ones off and inspected the closer. That prompted me to go on line and ordered a complete set of new ones. This vehicle will have all new brakes by the end of the week.

Since I have to wait for the brakes to come in before I can take it off the rotisserie, I started working on the electrical system. When I removed the old rear harness I attached and pulled through a piece of wire. That made it easy to pull through the rear harness. I then re-installed the refurbished front harness and started putting mounting it in place. It's really a lot easier to work on the wiring under the dash when you can swing the vehicle up on its side and stand next to it. I'll do the dash board last, but most of the two harnesses will be done by the end of the week.

The engine is fully rebuilt and on the test stand. The wheels are mounted and ready. My plan is to get the engine all set and installed by the end of the week.
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1998 ENCORE M151A2 (daily driver)
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1978 KSA M151A2
1966 M151A1 (sold)
1970 M151A2
1964 M151 Kaiser Uncut FOR SALE
1977 M151A2 (Blue) SOLD
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Re: 1964 M151 Kaiser

Postby Vzike » October 4th, 2016, 7:03 am

While looking at the wheels, I realized the rear springs appeared too short. I measured them and found they were 11" (Front springs). Another trip to my storage unit and I found a set of rear springs measuring 12-3/4". Easy time to change them on the rotisserie.

I've had a number of questions on FaceBook about the way I replaced the dash board. I cut it with pneumatic metal shears, which left a good 3/16 gap. I trimmed the replacement dash to match, and did a but weld the length of the top. After grinding and some adjusting with the portapower, I got it straight and looking pretty good.

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1998 ENCORE M151A2 (daily driver)
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1966 M151A1 (sold)
1970 M151A2
1964 M151 Kaiser Uncut FOR SALE
1977 M151A2 (Blue) SOLD
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Re: 1964 M151 Kaiser

Postby rickf » October 4th, 2016, 4:57 pm

One thing you should know grinding welds. When you grind weld the grinding wheel will naturally grind the weld and also off to the side, one side or the other. if you are using a flap disc it is even worse. what you end up with is very thin metal on the sides along the weld. You want to avoid grinding as much as possible so practice a lot with the welding to get good penetration without the lumps and gaps. You should have a smooth, even weld if you have the right combination of heat, wire speed and travel speed. That will require very little grinding.
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1984 M1008
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12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
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Re: 1964 M151 Kaiser

Postby m3a1 » October 4th, 2016, 8:07 pm

Rick, I use a MillerMatic 200 and no matter how hard I try I cannot get a nice minimal butt-weld. Is .035 generally too large a wire size for that (disregarding other variables)?
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Re: 1964 M151 Kaiser

Postby fergrn37 » October 4th, 2016, 9:18 pm

Try .023 wire
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Re: 1964 M151 Kaiser

Postby lpcoating » October 5th, 2016, 6:16 am

.023" wire with C25 shielding gas. When possible I like to use approximately .040" of a gap, with an aluminum backer when doing Butt welds. "Push" the weld puddle is how I do it.

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Re: 1964 M151 Kaiser

Postby rickf » October 5th, 2016, 8:24 am

What you need to do is get a bunch of 18gauge scraps and then go with the 023 wire, 35 is way too big. The set you heat down to the recommended for that size by the machine, there is almost always a chart inside the door of the machine for heat and wire speed. I always set my wire speed a little on the low side and then on a scrap piece I will stat a pass and while welding I have my other hand on the wire speed dial and I am slowly turning it up until it hits the sweet spot. Mark that down as the setting for 18 gauge and you have a real good place to start. You want a nice steady, quiet sizzle to the arc. If it is starting and stopping and leaving globs then the wire speed is too slow and if it is pushing the torch back and sometimes sticking it is too fast. If you are burning holes then move the torch along the seam faster. This may mean you have to increase the wire speed to keep the weld even. Welding is a learned process but once you learn it you are good to go. I know a website I always send people to, a lot of good videos and info there. http://forum.weldingtipsandtricks.com/
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Re: 1964 M151 Kaiser

Postby Vzike » October 5th, 2016, 8:35 am

Thanks Rick, Guy. Welding has been a pain for me from the start. I learned to TIG 30 years ago, but have not used it since. MIG is very new and I have no one around who knows how to do it correctly. I'm going to practice a lot before I jump on the A2 I want to keep.

I book marked the page and will spend some time on it.

Now I have to get the generator out, put up the hurricane shutters, and load magazines (for the looters). Here comes Matthew! I live 300 yards from the Atlantic.
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1998 ENCORE M151A2 (daily driver)
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1978 KSA M151A2
1966 M151A1 (sold)
1970 M151A2
1964 M151 Kaiser Uncut FOR SALE
1977 M151A2 (Blue) SOLD
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Re: 1964 M151 Kaiser

Postby rickf » October 5th, 2016, 9:08 am

Batten down the hatches and God bless.
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Re: 1964 M151 Kaiser

Postby Vzike » October 10th, 2016, 7:32 am

Hurricane Matthew took a slight jog east as it hit West End, Bahamas. That moved it just far enough away so we only got tropical storm winds and some rain. No damage at home, but we lost the sign at the garage. Things are getting back to normal.

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Army 1968 - 2002 Retired
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'74 - '02 SOCOM

1998 ENCORE M151A2 (daily driver)
Projects:
1978 KSA M151A2
1966 M151A1 (sold)
1970 M151A2
1964 M151 Kaiser Uncut FOR SALE
1977 M151A2 (Blue) SOLD
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Re: 1964 M151 Kaiser

Postby Vzike » October 10th, 2016, 7:37 am

Over the weekend my wheel cylinders came in. I installed them and am ready to move on to more of the details of assembly, and the task of putting in the rebuild engine.

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Army 1968 - 2002 Retired
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'74 - '02 SOCOM

1998 ENCORE M151A2 (daily driver)
Projects:
1978 KSA M151A2
1966 M151A1 (sold)
1970 M151A2
1964 M151 Kaiser Uncut FOR SALE
1977 M151A2 (Blue) SOLD
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