Chronic Acceleration Problem
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Re: Chronic Acceleration Problem
Mine has non-vented cap, fuel return and that inspection plate. But it is still pre-emission type? I 've been thinking it is newer, emission type.
What do you think about this guy's illustrated tank restoration:
http://www.eastwood.com/blog/eastwood-c ... -syndrome/
it is sure cheaper but maybe not as good. What do y'all think about the product used in this tutorial?
I want to do it myself for the fun of it and the saving in my pocket.
Thanks Ken, for the ebay sale, I now know the strain will come off. I will try to unhook it and buy another one and just slap it on.
What Rick describe is just cleaning and servicing the carb right? Rebuild is like gutting it our and put lots of new parts in like ones in this kit right? It may be now the exact model but you know what i meant that should be replace in the rebuilt process.
and the float
I will read some more on cleaning and follow your instructions, but I will have a professional rebuild it , if needed.
when take off for cleaning, can I reuse the gasket? I kinda like gasket maker: no shipping wait, nor search for fitting. jUST squeeze and voila!
But i show y'all teh closeup, hi res. image of the seat of the needle see if it is punctured.
Hear from you soon. It is more exciting to check g838 than facebook for me. hehehe
sincerely,
What do you think about this guy's illustrated tank restoration:
http://www.eastwood.com/blog/eastwood-c ... -syndrome/
it is sure cheaper but maybe not as good. What do y'all think about the product used in this tutorial?
I want to do it myself for the fun of it and the saving in my pocket.
Thanks Ken, for the ebay sale, I now know the strain will come off. I will try to unhook it and buy another one and just slap it on.
What Rick describe is just cleaning and servicing the carb right? Rebuild is like gutting it our and put lots of new parts in like ones in this kit right? It may be now the exact model but you know what i meant that should be replace in the rebuilt process.
and the float
I will read some more on cleaning and follow your instructions, but I will have a professional rebuild it , if needed.
when take off for cleaning, can I reuse the gasket? I kinda like gasket maker: no shipping wait, nor search for fitting. jUST squeeze and voila!
But i show y'all teh closeup, hi res. image of the seat of the needle see if it is punctured.
Hear from you soon. It is more exciting to check g838 than facebook for me. hehehe
sincerely,
As always, Thank You So Much For All Your Help.
Vin Venito
M151A2
TJ Wrangler Sahara
79 Jeep Cj7--gone
86 Jeep CJ7--gone
Vin Venito
M151A2
TJ Wrangler Sahara
79 Jeep Cj7--gone
86 Jeep CJ7--gone
Re: Chronic Acceleration Problem
I just got a constructive message from Rick on how to follow y'all instruction and steps of a proper process.
Let me pause for now until all those info given is followed and done.
Then I will update with you all of the results.
By hearing Rick's 45 yrs in the business, that's longer than I've been on earth. If I appeared to be not listening. I apologize. you all will always have my respect. What else can I give when I pay nothing for these info.
Now is the time for me to get all needed works done instead of asking for more info.
Until then, thank you. I'll be back.
Gratefully yours,
venito
Let me pause for now until all those info given is followed and done.
Then I will update with you all of the results.
By hearing Rick's 45 yrs in the business, that's longer than I've been on earth. If I appeared to be not listening. I apologize. you all will always have my respect. What else can I give when I pay nothing for these info.
Now is the time for me to get all needed works done instead of asking for more info.
Until then, thank you. I'll be back.
Gratefully yours,
venito
As always, Thank You So Much For All Your Help.
Vin Venito
M151A2
TJ Wrangler Sahara
79 Jeep Cj7--gone
86 Jeep CJ7--gone
Vin Venito
M151A2
TJ Wrangler Sahara
79 Jeep Cj7--gone
86 Jeep CJ7--gone
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Re: Chronic Acceleration Problem
Good Luck
Post some pictures of your M151
Post some pictures of your M151
Raymond
"On the day when crime puts on the apparel of innocence, through a curious reversal peculiar to our age, it is innocence that is called on to justify itself." Albert Camus
"On the day when crime puts on the apparel of innocence, through a curious reversal peculiar to our age, it is innocence that is called on to justify itself." Albert Camus
Re: Chronic Acceleration Problem
you will be a bit disappointed
it's not a full breed m151 jeep, it's a mongrel--a mutt down to its very semantics
it's not a full breed m151 jeep, it's a mongrel--a mutt down to its very semantics
Last edited by Venito on April 17th, 2016, 7:29 am, edited 2 times in total.
As always, Thank You So Much For All Your Help.
Vin Venito
M151A2
TJ Wrangler Sahara
79 Jeep Cj7--gone
86 Jeep CJ7--gone
Vin Venito
M151A2
TJ Wrangler Sahara
79 Jeep Cj7--gone
86 Jeep CJ7--gone
Re: Chronic Acceleration Problem
Venito, it's an Encore or a Titan body, not an M151 body. It still looks good. Have you decided to get the fuel tank fixed yet?Venito wrote: it's not a full breed m151 jeep, it's a mongrel--a mutt down its very semantics
By the way, if that tank is a pre-emissions tank (which you said it is) then you should be using a VENTED fuel cap.
Ken
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Re: Chronic Acceleration Problem
Most "all" of us would like to have one of the after market ones to use as a Driver and keep the 151's in top shape so, no disappointment here, that one looks very nice.
1960 M151 Run 1
1963 M151 Willys DoD 10-63 in Baltimore
1989 Alley Cat. "work in Progress"
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1963 M151 Willys DoD 10-63 in Baltimore
1989 Alley Cat. "work in Progress"
NRA Life Member
American Legion Post 275 Fl
US Army 6 years 2nd Armored Cavalry Bindlach Germany
Colorado Army Nat. Guard 5 years
Md Air Guard 15 years active duty on C-130's
Re: Chronic Acceleration Problem
Yes I did clean if spanking clean with chemical and clear the fuel line with compressed air. The difference is the filter at carb is filled with gas, nice!
Hi Ken, it is an encore M151
Idle great, revving engine to max no more misfiring.
But according Rick, I must also do all brake, and all other safety check before taking it on the road.
All four wheels are off, all brakes checked,bled and refilled with DOT 5 silicon fluid. At the end of today it will be ready to be test driven.
I will update tonight of its driving
thank you all.
Happy Thanksgiving to all.
Hi Ken, it is an encore M151
Idle great, revving engine to max no more misfiring.
But according Rick, I must also do all brake, and all other safety check before taking it on the road.
All four wheels are off, all brakes checked,bled and refilled with DOT 5 silicon fluid. At the end of today it will be ready to be test driven.
I will update tonight of its driving
thank you all.
Happy Thanksgiving to all.
As always, Thank You So Much For All Your Help.
Vin Venito
M151A2
TJ Wrangler Sahara
79 Jeep Cj7--gone
86 Jeep CJ7--gone
Vin Venito
M151A2
TJ Wrangler Sahara
79 Jeep Cj7--gone
86 Jeep CJ7--gone
Re: Chronic Acceleration Problem
I hope it had DOT 5 in it before, they are not compatible and they do not mix. Did you check to see which was in there before?
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
Re: Chronic Acceleration Problem
HI Rick it was certainly not silicon fluid, I took it out, mix it with water, in blend perfectly into water. It was not silicon obviously.
So I bled 2 bottles of Dot 5, the purple color ones, thru the system. Got all the air out.
The brakes grabs and locked up before. Now it stops locking up now.
I did what you told me in private message. All wheels off and inspected. Tires, seat belts, lights, axel and diff oil flushed and refilled. I will buy a grease gun to inject grease into places tomorrow.
I did take the carb off, give it some good cleaning and inspect the needle seat, no visible damage.
Sitting still, I can rev engine from idle to max, no problem--unlike in the past it would backfire and sputter.
Skipping one Thanks Giving dinner, I finally get it ready for a test drive.
After warming up real good, I could get it out of the driving just fine going down hill from my home no problem. On the way back up hill, it chugged and misfired then stalled. I restarted it but could not get it up the hill.
Left it there by neighbor's home. Almost an hour later, I came back, start it up drive home right away, it make home OK.
I did one more time. It still stall when it is under load. I only misfires when under load, sitting still it has no problem revving.
I've read this it could be ignition coil on car advise web site, but I am not sure what it is with mine.
So I bled 2 bottles of Dot 5, the purple color ones, thru the system. Got all the air out.
The brakes grabs and locked up before. Now it stops locking up now.
I did what you told me in private message. All wheels off and inspected. Tires, seat belts, lights, axel and diff oil flushed and refilled. I will buy a grease gun to inject grease into places tomorrow.
I did take the carb off, give it some good cleaning and inspect the needle seat, no visible damage.
Sitting still, I can rev engine from idle to max, no problem--unlike in the past it would backfire and sputter.
Skipping one Thanks Giving dinner, I finally get it ready for a test drive.
After warming up real good, I could get it out of the driving just fine going down hill from my home no problem. On the way back up hill, it chugged and misfired then stalled. I restarted it but could not get it up the hill.
Left it there by neighbor's home. Almost an hour later, I came back, start it up drive home right away, it make home OK.
I did one more time. It still stall when it is under load. I only misfires when under load, sitting still it has no problem revving.
I've read this it could be ignition coil on car advise web site, but I am not sure what it is with mine.
As always, Thank You So Much For All Your Help.
Vin Venito
M151A2
TJ Wrangler Sahara
79 Jeep Cj7--gone
86 Jeep CJ7--gone
Vin Venito
M151A2
TJ Wrangler Sahara
79 Jeep Cj7--gone
86 Jeep CJ7--gone
Re: Chronic Acceleration Problem
basically, what I was trying to say was: it no longer misfires, only misfires and stalls when under load like going up hill.
It starts up and runs very smoothly until it needs to pull hard...
It starts up and runs very smoothly until it needs to pull hard...
Last edited by Venito on April 17th, 2016, 7:29 am, edited 1 time in total.
As always, Thank You So Much For All Your Help.
Vin Venito
M151A2
TJ Wrangler Sahara
79 Jeep Cj7--gone
86 Jeep CJ7--gone
Vin Venito
M151A2
TJ Wrangler Sahara
79 Jeep Cj7--gone
86 Jeep CJ7--gone
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Re: Chronic Acceleration Problem
The axle u joints, especially the ones by the wheels are hard to grease. Get yourself a miniature grease gun and put a grease needle on the end.
Here is the one that I use.
Here is the one that I use.
Raymond
"On the day when crime puts on the apparel of innocence, through a curious reversal peculiar to our age, it is innocence that is called on to justify itself." Albert Camus
"On the day when crime puts on the apparel of innocence, through a curious reversal peculiar to our age, it is innocence that is called on to justify itself." Albert Camus
Re: Chronic Acceleration Problem
Venito..... look back a couple of posts. You will see this:-Venito wrote:basically, what I was trying to say was: it no longer misfires, only misfires and stalls when under load like going up hill. It starts up and runs very smoothly until it needs to pull hard...
If you do not understand, it means this.muttguru wrote:if that tank is a pre-emissions tank (which you said it is) then you should be using a VENTED fuel cap.
If the tank is a vented tank, it must be fitted with a VENTED cap. If you are using a NON-vented cap, a vacuum will develop in the tank & fuel lines as the fuel is used. The tank needs air to replace the used fuel.
When you are driving up a hill, you use more fuel so the tank will develop a vacuum very quickly. Because of the vacuum, the fuel starts to run out, the engine will splutter and die. If you leave the vehicle for a while, the tank will gradually lose the vacuum.
So, before you buy a replacement coil, carb etc, try this. Unfasten the fuel cap. Leave it loose, don't tighten it. Then drive the vehicle. If it runs good, up and down hill.....then you need to buy a new cap...make sure it says "VENTED".
If it still runs badly, try a different coil.
Ken
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Re: Chronic Acceleration Problem
You may also want to check the centrifugal advance weights under the point/electronic ignition plate, they could be rusted/frozen and not moving freely.
1960 M151 Run 1
1963 M151 Willys DoD 10-63 in Baltimore
1989 Alley Cat. "work in Progress"
NRA Life Member
American Legion Post 275 Fl
US Army 6 years 2nd Armored Cavalry Bindlach Germany
Colorado Army Nat. Guard 5 years
Md Air Guard 15 years active duty on C-130's
1963 M151 Willys DoD 10-63 in Baltimore
1989 Alley Cat. "work in Progress"
NRA Life Member
American Legion Post 275 Fl
US Army 6 years 2nd Armored Cavalry Bindlach Germany
Colorado Army Nat. Guard 5 years
Md Air Guard 15 years active duty on C-130's
Re: Chronic Acceleration Problem
Mr. Recovery,
under 500 rpm I am dead on 6 degrees btdc. When I get near 1000 rmp or more, the it moves away from 6 degree. I presume the centrifugal weight still works, don't you think?
i don't want to mess with something I ve never worked on before.
thank you sir,
vinny
under 500 rpm I am dead on 6 degrees btdc. When I get near 1000 rmp or more, the it moves away from 6 degree. I presume the centrifugal weight still works, don't you think?
i don't want to mess with something I ve never worked on before.
thank you sir,
vinny
As always, Thank You So Much For All Your Help.
Vin Venito
M151A2
TJ Wrangler Sahara
79 Jeep Cj7--gone
86 Jeep CJ7--gone
Vin Venito
M151A2
TJ Wrangler Sahara
79 Jeep Cj7--gone
86 Jeep CJ7--gone
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Re: Chronic Acceleration Problem
1960 M151 Run 1
1963 M151 Willys DoD 10-63 in Baltimore
1989 Alley Cat. "work in Progress"
NRA Life Member
American Legion Post 275 Fl
US Army 6 years 2nd Armored Cavalry Bindlach Germany
Colorado Army Nat. Guard 5 years
Md Air Guard 15 years active duty on C-130's
1963 M151 Willys DoD 10-63 in Baltimore
1989 Alley Cat. "work in Progress"
NRA Life Member
American Legion Post 275 Fl
US Army 6 years 2nd Armored Cavalry Bindlach Germany
Colorado Army Nat. Guard 5 years
Md Air Guard 15 years active duty on C-130's