Reverse lights in-op

[Horst]

BAD excuse. All modern military vehicles, including the ones mentioned, use the very same composite lights...

[rickf]

Just make sure everyone behind you has the NVG's also! I guess the latest generation of night vision is better but the ones I tried gave very little depth perception.
Rick

[MUTT Vet]

BAD excuse. All modern military vehicles, including the ones mentioned, use the very same composite lights...

Not ALL modern vichels use the same composite lights, most do but not all. There are many different configurations of the hummer.

Just because modern vehciles use composite lights doesn't mean that i would think that the older jeep would have the same thing...sorry for my ignorance.

I just came back from the yard to make sure but most of the desert configured hummers have the composite lights with the small slit under the amber light and a black out light next to the right head light. The woodland configured hummers don't have the composite light and have NO black out lights at all.

Plus, i'm not trying to make excuses. I just didn't know about the rear black out lights.

I was trained in the army to drive vehicles not work on them and as anyone in the military can tell you that the training isn't always the way it is in the field. I remember the training and even in the army it was mentioned that not every hummer had the same configurations. If we needed to see at night we used NVG's.

We have 4 strykers here and none of them have the same composite lights and no black out lights either.

Sorry if i sound like I'm making excuses, i'm not.

[MUTT Vet]

Just make sure everyone behind you has the NVG's also! I guess the latest generation of night vision is better but the ones I tried gave very little depth perception.

In our convoys, if one person is wearing NVG's and not driving with lights, then everyone in the convoy is doing the same.

The Gen III and Gen IV goggles that we use have a much better depth perception as the are binocular instead of monocular.

[rickf]

I would love to find a set of the later binocular types to use on my boat since my night vision isn't what it used to be.

[MUTT Vet]

Rick,

Here is the set i have:

http://www.opticsplanet.net/atn-nvight- ... ougar.html

They're only Gen I but they do have decent depth perception.

Here is a civilian model of gen IV goggles, very pricey:

http://www.nightvision4less.com/night_v ... _gen-4.htm

[k8icu]

Funny....all the HMMWV in my unit have composit lights...both cammo and desert and up armored. So do the FMTVs.... Sure some now have LED lights, but the configuration is the same as on the M151A2. They all either have the three leaver light switch or the new push button ones. Plus if you have a mill drivers license then you should have been tested (provided the person testing was doing their job properly) on what the different light configurations are. Lastly...and I'm not picking on you MuttVet....this goes for everyone....when you get a new MV you should read and understand the -10 manual. Nowing how your MV operates properly can save many lives...including your own!

[MUTT Vet]

Lastly...and I'm not picking on you MuttVet....this goes for everyone....when you get a new MV you should read and understand the -10 manual. Nowing how your MV operates properly can save many lives...including your own!

You're absolutely right. When i got my MUTT i didn't think it would be any different than the other vehicles i've driven...it is.

I have every manual there is for the A2 and have looked at all of them.

But the two reasons this forum is here is because there are certain things that aren't in the manuals that the old master mechanics know; they can give the tips and tricks that aren't mentioned in the TM's. The other is just simply to interact with other like minded individuals and share thoughts.

I have been trained on many 4 wheeled vehicles in my time in the army and air force. I have my Air Force Form 2293 with the back side almost full. As i said before, tech school is completely different than the field.

I know the hummers have the same switch setup. I got trained in '98, never used them much.

I got out of the ARmy in 97, I was Infantry; i got trained on vehicles but didn't drive them much. That was a long time ago and many brain cells have died since then.

You might not be picking on me but it sure sounds like it. And no it's not funny! Yours may have the composite lights, the ones here don't. They're the LED, even the strykers have the LED's.

It sounds like you're calling me a liar and that's not cool. If you are in the military like you say, then you would know that things can be VERY different from base to base, especially in the Air Force, they bastardize many vehicles to meet their own needs.

The original point is i didn't know about the black out lights on the rear of my MUTT, now i do, sorry it's caused so much turmoil.

I know now and knowing is half the battle!

[TrueXena]

Hey MUTTVet, dont let k8icu get to you.

If my hubby hadn't told me about 'black out' lights (and showed me), I would never have known about them. And though I still KNEW about the black out lights, I did NOT know that there where no 'back up' lights on these vehicles until you asked and it was explained.

I too was in the Army, and I was trained in Humvees. Though I took a bunch of them into the mud hole to get my driving training done (like everyone else) there where NO instructions on how the lights worked. (this was in Basic Training)

When I went to my duty station (Leavenworth, KS) after basic, as an MP, all I dealt with where civilian vehicles. We drove around post in police cruisers, so there was no reason for me to have any further instruction on the basics of a Military Vehicle. We didn't even use a military vehicle to pull the canon's around for "Salute Battery", we had a Jeep Cherokee, with a pentlehook to do that.

Lighten up Joe, pull that stick out of your butt. Not everbody was as well trained on military vehicles as you might of been while in the military.

[Ralph Fuller]

Hey, TX: I was a 95B (Military Police). One of the questions I was asked when I went up for USARPAC NCO of the quarter: "What caliber are the pistols on your brass?". I guessed .50 and lost out on a 3 day pass.
Answer: Harper's Ferry Pistol made from 1806 to 1808. The Model 1805 was the first military handgun made at a national armory. It is significant that this pistol is used today on the insignia of the U.S. Army military police. Pistol is a .58 caliber flintlock.

[TrueXena]

Really? I would of guessed .50 caliber as well. Guess I wouldn't have gotten my pass either.

[rickf]

OK guys, May I refer you to my post in the general section titled "I hope the 838 never gets like this". ! K8icu, You need to lighten up! Not everyone knows everything and some people in the military were there for many years and never had occasion to drive or inspect vehicles.
Rick

[Fil Bonica]

You guys got to learn to play nice in the sand box.

This is a hobby not serious stuff like life or death.


Fil Bonica

[k8icu]

You know what.....pthththththththththththththththththththth!

So there!

I'm going to write a letter to Obama telling him that you all hurt my feelings....

My point was that the -10 shows the operation of the light switch and the different configuration. And that many people will read this post long after Mutt Vet and I are gone it might help them to understand the operation of their new MV as well.

My point on the LED lights was they are configured the same as the older composite lights. Big brake and tail light on top, black out marker under that and black out stop under that. And for the record the front is trun signal and parking light on top, black out marker on bottom. So the simularity should be there.

Lastly I have only been in the military for 18 years, but I've owned military vehicles for 25...so I guess I was trained on MVs before I was trained in the military...