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fording kit question

Unread post by Cav Trooper » June 24th, 2018, 12:21 pm

I have a new fording kit that has a lot of paint flaking off of both pipes and all of the painted brackets. I have sanded the intake pipe to bare aluminum and primed, it will get sprayed "383" same as the 151. The question is, the exhaust pipe is in the same flaking paint/surface rust condition and I'm sanding it down also. The pipe was originally primed in red oxide primer which is all being removed. Now I need to prime and paint the steel exhaust pipe, but do I use something that will withstand high heat like VHT or can I prime and paint "383" without having it burn away?
My paint is Gillespie 34094 "383" carc substitute.
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Unread post by Horst » June 24th, 2018, 1:15 pm

Don't know how good the fake CARC paint will do but I used real CARC paint on the fording exhaust. It did hold good for a number of years and 5000 miles but now it is time to repaint it. I did not use any primer which I would think does not help in this high heat application.
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Re: fording kit question

Unread post by raymond » June 24th, 2018, 6:22 pm

As for the aluminum pipe, painting aluminum takes a special primer. Without the primer, any paint will soon flake off again.
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Unread post by rickf » June 24th, 2018, 7:24 pm

You will need a self etching primer for the intake pipe. I am not sure we can get real CARC here in the states, That is nasty stuff and requires a full pressurized paint suit! If you are painting the exhaust black then use stove paint from a wood stove store or grill store.
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Re: fording kit question

Unread post by Cav Trooper » June 25th, 2018, 9:45 am

Thanks for the input. I think I'll try the 383 and if if doesn't hold up, maybe paint from the tail pipe to the guard high temp black.

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Unread post by Lindsay36551 » June 25th, 2018, 3:28 pm

For aluminum, Sherwin Williams PRO CRILL PRIMER, water based, Can be tinted any color you want!
For your rear pipe ,Heat resistant paint 1st and apply your finish color .This is how I did mine and 3 yrs latter everything is as good as new.(I paint for a living)
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Re: fording kit question

Unread post by Cav Trooper » July 3rd, 2018, 11:01 pm

Thanks, finally test drove today and could smell the paint burning on the tail pipe. I'll try the high temp black and maybe 383 over it or just leave it black. Not going for show points, just something that looks clean.

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Re: fording kit question

Unread post by Cav Trooper » July 16th, 2018, 10:19 pm

Took the vertical tailpipe off and sanded off all of the burned paint and repainted with VHT flat black, looks good and won't burn off. Another friend used John Deere muffler paint which is a semi gloss high temp paint. I didn't feel like driving 20 miles to the Deere dealer to get a can and I had the VHT on hand.

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Unread post by raymond » July 17th, 2018, 10:01 am

The muffler on my John Deere did not stay semi gloss for very long.
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Unread post by old dodge guy » July 17th, 2018, 1:05 pm

Hmmmm, rubs chin a bit.......... :roll: ............must be because it's from a green tractor, not red. :shock: :lol: :lol:
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Unread post by raymond » July 17th, 2018, 3:56 pm

old dodge guy wrote:Hmmmm, rubs chin a bit.......... :roll: ............must be because it's from a green tractor, not red. :shock: :lol: :lol:
Hey ODG, here's a shocker for ya.

MUFFLERS GET HOT :!: :idea: :P

A muffler painted gloss and semi gloss paint will not be gloss or semi gloss for very long.
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Unread post by old dodge guy » July 17th, 2018, 4:28 pm

MUFFLERS GET HOT :!: :idea: :P
Yep, just having a bit of fun. :lol:

Up here, they get a kinda flat black/rusty color.
No matter what they started with


..........and back to our regular programming :lol:
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Re: fording kit question

Unread post by rickf » July 17th, 2018, 4:47 pm

I painted the muffler and pipe on my Massey diesel with wood stove paint ten years ago and no rust yet.
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