need location of C.G.
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Re: need location of C.G.
SEABEE, Keep in mind, Top lives in France.
Ken and Horst, I know the rops will raise the COG but I don't think it is anywhere near as much as some would think. Consider that the heavy mounts are at or below the original cog and the amount of cage above the body line is not all that much weight.
I may say I was anxious to jump out of them but there were many times I was anxious to get back in too!
Rick
Ken and Horst, I know the rops will raise the COG but I don't think it is anywhere near as much as some would think. Consider that the heavy mounts are at or below the original cog and the amount of cage above the body line is not all that much weight.
I may say I was anxious to jump out of them but there were many times I was anxious to get back in too!
Rick
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
Re: need location of C.G.
Ken,
Please let me know what you have. I actually only need the longitudinal position of the C.G, the lateral and vertical is not important for what I need. If you have one for a plain 151A2 I can calculate the impact of the ROPS. I would guess the C.G. is ahead of the driver seat, but I am not sure.
Yes, this thread carried them somewhere else. I like of course helo stories being a helo pilot, but still need this info though.
Please let me know what you have. I actually only need the longitudinal position of the C.G, the lateral and vertical is not important for what I need. If you have one for a plain 151A2 I can calculate the impact of the ROPS. I would guess the C.G. is ahead of the driver seat, but I am not sure.
Yes, this thread carried them somewhere else. I like of course helo stories being a helo pilot, but still need this info though.
Horst
1972 USMC M151A2 w/ROPS (ex Barstow) and M416
1962 M201 and trailer
1966 GTO,1982 E350 Skoolie, 1987 SJ413, 1987 911
Gone: 2xM35A2c, Unimog 404S, Hanomag AL28, DKW Munga
1972 USMC M151A2 w/ROPS (ex Barstow) and M416
1962 M201 and trailer
1966 GTO,1982 E350 Skoolie, 1987 SJ413, 1987 911
Gone: 2xM35A2c, Unimog 404S, Hanomag AL28, DKW Munga
Re: need location of C.G.
Rick, I know he is from France......but he called us ----------! I'll let you go on with your discussion, it is educational, and I appreciate learning more from this thread. Thanks, Tom
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Seabee Association of America LM , NMCB 62 Assoc.
"Performance Under Fire" US Navy Seabees '69-'72
National Assoc. of Atomic Veterans/ Amchitka
SEMO University Vet Corp Alumni
MVPA#32091
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VFW 3838, American Legion 63
Seabee Association of America LM , NMCB 62 Assoc.
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Re: need location of C.G.
Rick, did I ever mention that besides the private room with all the goodies {and I am not talking about the hooch maid}, I had a reserved parking space for my own M151 {complete with fake trip tickets but no shovel or axe- those were stolen before I got the thing}. Well, ....... not really reserved parking but there were 10 places and only four of us ever had jeeps.
BTW Ken, it was rick who stole this thread.....
BTW Ken, it was rick who stole this thread.....
Author M-151 MUTT, The Vietnam Jeep
Paper edition http://www.blurb.com/books/1646321
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2 M151A2s, M416 trailer, M274A5 Mule,
Former Army Aviator, Bien Hoa, VN 1968-69
Mustang Gunship Platoon Commander
68th Assault Helicopter Company 'Top Tigers'
Central Florida and France
Paper edition http://www.blurb.com/books/1646321
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2 M151A2s, M416 trailer, M274A5 Mule,
Former Army Aviator, Bien Hoa, VN 1968-69
Mustang Gunship Platoon Commander
68th Assault Helicopter Company 'Top Tigers'
Central Florida and France
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Re: need location of C.G.
Chopper pilot: "Hey Swabbie, do you have change for a dollar?"
Seabee: "Sure, buddy."
Chopper pilot: "That's no way to address an officer!
Now let's try it again!"
Chopper pilot: "Seabee. Do you have change for a dollar?"
Seabee: "No, SIR!"
Seabee: "Sure, buddy."
Chopper pilot: "That's no way to address an officer!
Now let's try it again!"
Chopper pilot: "Seabee. Do you have change for a dollar?"
Seabee: "No, SIR!"
Author M-151 MUTT, The Vietnam Jeep
Paper edition http://www.blurb.com/books/1646321
IOS ebook iBookstore: http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/id598605516
2 M151A2s, M416 trailer, M274A5 Mule,
Former Army Aviator, Bien Hoa, VN 1968-69
Mustang Gunship Platoon Commander
68th Assault Helicopter Company 'Top Tigers'
Central Florida and France
Paper edition http://www.blurb.com/books/1646321
IOS ebook iBookstore: http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/id598605516
2 M151A2s, M416 trailer, M274A5 Mule,
Former Army Aviator, Bien Hoa, VN 1968-69
Mustang Gunship Platoon Commander
68th Assault Helicopter Company 'Top Tigers'
Central Florida and France
Re: need location of C.G.
Horst, This may sound crazy but here is something to try in your spare time. Lay two long planks across a piece of 6" drain pipe. Drive the mutt up the planks until it starts to flop over on the pipe. There is your center of gravity. We used to do that in skills competitions to see if you could control the vehicle well enough to balance it in the middle.Horst wrote:Ken,
Please let me know what you have. I actually only need the longitudinal position of the C.G, the lateral and vertical is not important for what I need. If you have one for a plain 151A2 I can calculate the impact of the ROPS. I would guess the C.G. is ahead of the driver seat, but I am not sure.
Yes, this thread carried them somewhere else. I like of course helo stories being a helo pilot, but still need this info though.
Rick
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
Re: need location of C.G.
Lets see, the shovel and axe were stolen before you got it. And where did you get it?toptiger wrote:Rick, did I ever mention that besides the private room with all the goodies {and I am not talking about the hooch maid}, I had a reserved parking space for my own M151 {complete with fake trip tickets but no shovel or axe- those were stolen before I got the thing}. Well, ....... not really reserved parking but there were 10 places and only four of us ever had jeeps.
BTW Ken, it was rick who stole this thread.....
And yes it probably was me that stole the thread, I have a reputation to maintain!
Rick
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
Re: need location of C.G.
SEABEE62 wrote:Rick, I know he is from France......but he called us ----------! I'll let you go on with your discussion, it is educational, and I appreciate learning more from this thread. Thanks, Tom
Me thinks Seabee is a little light in the sense of humor department.
It is all in fun Tom, Top and I have been going round and round for about a year now. Wait until spring and watch the banter!
Rick
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
Re: need location of C.G.
hard to believe after seeing where this thread went, but I got the information I needed. Thanks...
Horst
1972 USMC M151A2 w/ROPS (ex Barstow) and M416
1962 M201 and trailer
1966 GTO,1982 E350 Skoolie, 1987 SJ413, 1987 911
Gone: 2xM35A2c, Unimog 404S, Hanomag AL28, DKW Munga
1972 USMC M151A2 w/ROPS (ex Barstow) and M416
1962 M201 and trailer
1966 GTO,1982 E350 Skoolie, 1987 SJ413, 1987 911
Gone: 2xM35A2c, Unimog 404S, Hanomag AL28, DKW Munga
Re: need location of C.G.
Great, but I certainly didn't want to start an international incident . ( at least not again ) , and you have to remember, I'm an educated Seabee, and always check things around the site, before I jump in head first with foot in mouth. Tom
1971 M151A2 MUTT , M416 trailer
NMCB 62, Delta Co.,BU2, Gulfport, MS Home Port
VFW 3838, American Legion 63
Seabee Association of America LM , NMCB 62 Assoc.
"Performance Under Fire" US Navy Seabees '69-'72
National Assoc. of Atomic Veterans/ Amchitka
SEMO University Vet Corp Alumni
MVPA#32091
NMCB 62, Delta Co.,BU2, Gulfport, MS Home Port
VFW 3838, American Legion 63
Seabee Association of America LM , NMCB 62 Assoc.
"Performance Under Fire" US Navy Seabees '69-'72
National Assoc. of Atomic Veterans/ Amchitka
SEMO University Vet Corp Alumni
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Re: need location of C.G.
rick- an educated seabee? wouldn't that be an 11 Bravo
Author M-151 MUTT, The Vietnam Jeep
Paper edition http://www.blurb.com/books/1646321
IOS ebook iBookstore: http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/id598605516
2 M151A2s, M416 trailer, M274A5 Mule,
Former Army Aviator, Bien Hoa, VN 1968-69
Mustang Gunship Platoon Commander
68th Assault Helicopter Company 'Top Tigers'
Central Florida and France
Paper edition http://www.blurb.com/books/1646321
IOS ebook iBookstore: http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/id598605516
2 M151A2s, M416 trailer, M274A5 Mule,
Former Army Aviator, Bien Hoa, VN 1968-69
Mustang Gunship Platoon Commander
68th Assault Helicopter Company 'Top Tigers'
Central Florida and France
Re: need location of C.G.
Jealous!!!!!!!!! Can you spell A ... R... M... , in that order ... Y ?
1971 M151A2 MUTT , M416 trailer
NMCB 62, Delta Co.,BU2, Gulfport, MS Home Port
VFW 3838, American Legion 63
Seabee Association of America LM , NMCB 62 Assoc.
"Performance Under Fire" US Navy Seabees '69-'72
National Assoc. of Atomic Veterans/ Amchitka
SEMO University Vet Corp Alumni
MVPA#32091
NMCB 62, Delta Co.,BU2, Gulfport, MS Home Port
VFW 3838, American Legion 63
Seabee Association of America LM , NMCB 62 Assoc.
"Performance Under Fire" US Navy Seabees '69-'72
National Assoc. of Atomic Veterans/ Amchitka
SEMO University Vet Corp Alumni
MVPA#32091
Re: need location of C.G.
Yee-Ha, I think I will stand aside and watch this one, ought to be good!toptiger wrote:rick- an educated seabee? wouldn't that be an 11 Bravo
Rick
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
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Re: need location of C.G.
My dad was a torpedo man in the Navy during WW II. He told the story about his being stationed on a small island in the pacific and the Seabees coming in, building a working airstrip in 24 hours, using PSP (perforated steel plating) and leaving a sign that said, "Kilroy Was Here". He had a great respect and admiration for them.
Ralph
1967 M151A1
1967 M151A1
1967 M416
1947 Bantam TC-3 trailer
If The Phone Don't Ring ... You'll Know It's Me
Airborne Ranger CIB Vietnam
1967 M151A1
1967 M151A1
1967 M416
1947 Bantam TC-3 trailer
If The Phone Don't Ring ... You'll Know It's Me
Airborne Ranger CIB Vietnam
Re: need location of C.G.
Hi Ralph, Thank you for your remarks, they were appreciated. My father in law was one of the orginal Seabees at the start of the war in the Pacific. If you ever saw the Fighting Seabees with John Wayne, Art was one of the construction crew members on that island. However, and the movie didn't continue with what happen afterwards. When Japan was bombing Pearl Harbor, they were also trying to take Wake. It took two weeks to capture the island. Then they took half of those on the island to China, then Japan in POW camps. They killed the remaining ones left on Wake. Art spent 4 years as a POW. When I met my future wife, and this was during the time I was in the service, I was humbled to know such a person and what he and others went thru during this period. I am lucky and proud to be a Seabee with this rich history. Thanks for letting me share this. Tom .
1971 M151A2 MUTT , M416 trailer
NMCB 62, Delta Co.,BU2, Gulfport, MS Home Port
VFW 3838, American Legion 63
Seabee Association of America LM , NMCB 62 Assoc.
"Performance Under Fire" US Navy Seabees '69-'72
National Assoc. of Atomic Veterans/ Amchitka
SEMO University Vet Corp Alumni
MVPA#32091
NMCB 62, Delta Co.,BU2, Gulfport, MS Home Port
VFW 3838, American Legion 63
Seabee Association of America LM , NMCB 62 Assoc.
"Performance Under Fire" US Navy Seabees '69-'72
National Assoc. of Atomic Veterans/ Amchitka
SEMO University Vet Corp Alumni
MVPA#32091