Looking for Details on a Gun Jeep

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Looking for Details on a Gun Jeep

Unread post by Elvis Presley » August 17th, 2020, 4:05 pm

Was wondering if anyone had further information about a particular gun jeep named: California Dreamer? I have a few pics, and I can discern that the jeep served in the 54 Transportation Battalion, 512th Transportation Company. Would anyone happen to know its serial number, or have any further details on this unit? I'm thinking of making my '66 A1 into a tribute gun jeep honoring the men that served in the original.

Knowing that each of these units were unique and hand-built by those who relied on what little protection the side panels provided, is there any info that would show what types of materials were used (angle iron, tubing, plate, hinges, bullet-proof glass sections, etc..) and where they were mounted to the body?

Any information would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks!
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1966 M-16____________1943 1911A1
1918 Model 1917 .45 Revolver
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Re: Looking for Details on a Gun Jeep

Unread post by MUTT_KAHUNA ED » August 21st, 2020, 12:18 pm

Aloha..you're best bet is to contact James Lyles,author of multiple books on Vietnam gun trucks. James was ncoic of Vietnam gun trucks and has a LOT of pics,info of all things relating to transportation companies in Vietnam. The last email I had for him is : lyles289hp@ aol.com
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Re: Looking for Details on a Gun Jeep

Unread post by muttguru » August 21st, 2020, 4:50 pm

Start by obtaining these two books......
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Always wanted - Details and pictures of M416 Trailer data plates & M151 data plates & body-tags for my research. Thanks!

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Re: Looking for Details on a Gun Jeep

Unread post by rickf » August 21st, 2020, 8:23 pm

There was an underbody armor kit made for the 151, I don't know much about it but I have seen pictures of it.
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Re: Looking for Details on a Gun Jeep

Unread post by Elvis Presley » October 12th, 2020, 6:59 pm

Thanks for the tips - I have picked up the first two books from Mr. Lyles. Lots of really cool pictures and information. Lots of ideas!

Have a nice day!
1966 M151A1 ___All matching '44 M1 Garand
1951 H&R M1 Garland__1966 Fairlane GTA
1973 Torino wagon_____1942 03A3 - Unissued
1939 Unissued 1903____1944 M1 Inland Carbine
1966 M-16____________1943 1911A1
1918 Model 1917 .45 Revolver
1943 M1 Quality Hardware Carbine
1967 Saginaw 1919A6
1943 Saginaw 1919A4
1952 M1C and M1D Garands
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Re: Looking for Details on a Gun Jeep

Unread post by Mutt Hunter » October 20th, 2020, 5:34 pm

Sorry for a really late reply here, but if you have Amazon Prime, you'll be able to find a great one hour documentary on the gun trucks of Vietnam. I was really surprised how detailed it was. Its aptly titled: "Gun Trucks of Vietnam."

The best part of the documentary was how the Vietnam era gun truck troopers were contacted by the Iraq and Afghanistan troopers for tips on how to better up-armor their trucks prior to the advent of the MRAP.

Lots of great live super 8 black and white footage...and i'm pretty confident you'll eventually see what you're looking for.

If i'm not mistaken, you can get to it via Netflix too.
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Re: Looking for Details on a Gun Jeep

Unread post by Elvis Presley » October 25th, 2020, 10:42 pm

Thanks for the info!! I have all of Mr. Lyles books and have seen the video - I have seen a few cool things to incorporate like a mermite on the drivers side rear bumper. Not sure how it stays there just yet, but could be cool. Anyone been to any of the gun truck reunions?? That would be a place to take tons of pics!! When the becomes a bit less crazy maybe they’ll have another one!! Thanks!!
1966 M151A1 ___All matching '44 M1 Garand
1951 H&R M1 Garland__1966 Fairlane GTA
1973 Torino wagon_____1942 03A3 - Unissued
1939 Unissued 1903____1944 M1 Inland Carbine
1966 M-16____________1943 1911A1
1918 Model 1917 .45 Revolver
1943 M1 Quality Hardware Carbine
1967 Saginaw 1919A6
1943 Saginaw 1919A4
1952 M1C and M1D Garands
KD8QEQ

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Re: Looking for Details on a Gun Jeep

Unread post by Elvis Presley » November 14th, 2020, 11:00 pm

An update: before the socialists take over, I've purchased two M1919A4 kits for my gun jeep project. A Jeep from the 8th Transportation Group, 54th Battalion, 512th Transportation Company named California Dreamer had two M1919A4s early in its life and that's what I'm going for. It eventually received 2 M60's, but they are stupid expensive, and even dummy guns are not worth it in my humble opinion. Plus the 1919A4s can be converted into semis fairly easily - so why not!

Also, ran across a guy with two VIC-1s from the 1980's and 90's and will most likely sell them to get an earlier AM-1780 (in a more pleasing OD color: OD - Olive Drab 24087 to be exact!). I also picked up a bunch of mics and headsets too. I will put those in my sell list as well.
1966 M151A1 ___All matching '44 M1 Garand
1951 H&R M1 Garland__1966 Fairlane GTA
1973 Torino wagon_____1942 03A3 - Unissued
1939 Unissued 1903____1944 M1 Inland Carbine
1966 M-16____________1943 1911A1
1918 Model 1917 .45 Revolver
1943 M1 Quality Hardware Carbine
1967 Saginaw 1919A6
1943 Saginaw 1919A4
1952 M1C and M1D Garands
KD8QEQ

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Re: Looking for Details on a Gun Jeep

Unread post by fowlercal » November 14th, 2020, 11:44 pm

Elvis,

Where did you find the 1919A4 kits? I thought they were no longer available. (I’m an Anti-Socialist)

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Re: Looking for Details on a Gun Jeep

Unread post by Elvis Presley » November 15th, 2020, 1:38 pm

They are still out there!! There's a guy on Gun Broker right now with 4 191A4 .308 kits for sale for $1550 each. I actually want the 30.06 kits so I had to look around for a while. SARCO received one last week and I bought it - also apex had a 1919A6 and I bought that one as well. If you're looking for a .308 kit the dude on Gunbroker has them as buy it now at 1550. Good luck!!
1966 M151A1 ___All matching '44 M1 Garand
1951 H&R M1 Garland__1966 Fairlane GTA
1973 Torino wagon_____1942 03A3 - Unissued
1939 Unissued 1903____1944 M1 Inland Carbine
1966 M-16____________1943 1911A1
1918 Model 1917 .45 Revolver
1943 M1 Quality Hardware Carbine
1967 Saginaw 1919A6
1943 Saginaw 1919A4
1952 M1C and M1D Garands
KD8QEQ

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Re: Looking for Details on a Gun Jeep

Unread post by fowlercal » November 15th, 2020, 3:39 pm

Thanks for the info.

Cal

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Re: Looking for Details on a Gun Jeep

Unread post by Elvis Presley » January 14th, 2021, 3:54 pm

Unfortunately none of the books includes pictures of the inside of a typical gun jeep. Does someone know a MUTT owner (or is a MUTT owner) that has configured their M-series as a gun jeep? I'd love to check out their ride if possible, or perhaps get some pics of the interior details!!

Thanks again for all the wisdom and knowledge from all of you MUTTheads!

Have a nice day!
1966 M151A1 ___All matching '44 M1 Garand
1951 H&R M1 Garland__1966 Fairlane GTA
1973 Torino wagon_____1942 03A3 - Unissued
1939 Unissued 1903____1944 M1 Inland Carbine
1966 M-16____________1943 1911A1
1918 Model 1917 .45 Revolver
1943 M1 Quality Hardware Carbine
1967 Saginaw 1919A6
1943 Saginaw 1919A4
1952 M1C and M1D Garands
KD8QEQ

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Re: Looking for Details on a Gun Jeep

Unread post by muttguru » January 14th, 2021, 5:22 pm

There's a new Gun Truck book out now by David Doyle.....his books are usually excellent but I haven't read it..... yet.....

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There's also a Mil publication which covers the history of convoy security with a very good section devoted to GTs in Vietnam. It isn't restricted or classified.
If you want a copy of this email me directly as shown on my contact information below. It's 90+ pages and it's around 5Mb size.
If you only want the Nam section...say so (-:

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Re: Looking for Details on a Gun Jeep

Unread post by rickf » January 19th, 2021, 8:49 am

https://m151jeep.com/photos-us-forces-vietnam

Bottom of the first page I found the Wolfman gun jeep. There may be more on there.
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Re: Looking for Details on a Gun Jeep

Unread post by Surveyor » January 19th, 2021, 10:07 am

For those interested in seeing some history...

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Looks like the 30cals changed to m60's at some point.
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