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Re: working on replacing brake Master cylinder

Unread post by rickf » April 11th, 2021, 1:46 pm

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April 11th, 2021, 11:54 am
Hey Rick what does "anneal"l mean I don't believe I have ever seen this word not being a wise-ass I just don't understand, Thanks, mine had the line coming out the side I don't remember seeing a banjo bolt, I was thinking of having the brackets bead blasted and powder coated in order to stop any rust in the future cause mine are all rusted now, or *do you know if the brackets are available for sale NOS going to get a new M/C anyway I would like it to all be new and clean yes I'm replacing the lock washers, any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks again

* I have looked but haven't had any success
I have several complete pedal assemblies painted and ready to go. One has a master cylinder on it but I have not checked the cylinder to see if it is new or used. Powder coating would be overkill and wasted money as far as I am concerned. Properly prepared primed and painted those brackets will be rust free longer than you and I together will be around. I am not going to go out and get pics of the bracket right now because it is raining and they are right by the door so the pics would not look good anyway. Supposed to rain all the way through Tuesday or Wednesday but if you have to have them I will go out and get some.
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Re: working on replacing brake Master cylinder

Unread post by Mark » April 11th, 2021, 2:19 pm

I think anneal means makes the metal softer
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Re: working on replacing brake Master cylinder

Unread post by 70mford151a2 » April 11th, 2021, 2:54 pm

Mark, I understand what your saying about overkill, but I still need to sandblast them I don't think phosphoric acid ( ospho) works forever, if it did I would do it in a heartbeat, I will have to see thanks for commenting, I'm gonna order some paint for the floorboard anyway so we'll see USMC forest green my MUTT is now set up in a Marine corp motif.
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Re: working on replacing brake Master cylinder

Unread post by 70mford151a2 » April 11th, 2021, 2:57 pm

Mark,
How much would you want for the brackets as mine are pretty rough,, Thanks
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Re: working on replacing brake Master cylinder

Unread post by 70mford151a2 » April 11th, 2021, 3:00 pm

I'm planning on getting a new Master cylinder anyway, or if you know where to get any Brackets I will buy them.
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Re: working on replacing brake Master cylinder

Unread post by rickf » April 11th, 2021, 3:29 pm

It was me with the brackets, not Mark. Can you wait till tomorrow for pics? I really hate to get them all down and out in the rain and then have to put it all back up again, in the rain. I don't know if I have any brackets alone without pedal assemblies attached. I really would not want to break apart a complete pedal set just for the brackets. I have not even priced them yet. I will research that tonight.
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Re: working on replacing brake Master cylinder

Unread post by rickf » April 11th, 2021, 3:39 pm

And yes, annealing the copper washers means heating them to just under red hot and then letting them cool naturally. After that that will be dead soft and will seal much better.
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Re: working on replacing brake Master cylinder

Unread post by D Pizzoferrato » April 12th, 2021, 8:06 am

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April 11th, 2021, 12:28 pm
And where is this hidden bolt I keep hearing about I have no idea what they are talking about I have 4 mounting bolts.?
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See the 2 holes at the upper left of the cluster. There is a mating boss welded to the rear of the dash that a bolt passes through. Has been on every M151 A1 and A2 body that I've ever worked on (including 4 Encore bodies).
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Re: working on replacing brake Master cylinder

Unread post by 70mford151a2 » April 13th, 2021, 2:15 pm

"See the 2 holes at the upper left of the cluster. There is a mating boss welded to the rear of the dash that a bolt passes through. Has been on every M151 A1 and A2 body that I've ever worked on (including 4 Encore bodies)."

Mine doesn't have this bolt but I did have to take out the bolt that holds the bracket together and secures the back of the master cylinder apart to get it out very strange I wonder if it was hitting the bracket on the backside of the dash. I will have to investigate further.

ok I went and looked and there is a bracket behind the dash but I didn't take any bolt out of there. I wonder where it is? I guess I will need to get one Thanks
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Re: working on replacing brake Master cylinder

Unread post by rickf » April 13th, 2021, 5:26 pm

The pedal assy. I am going to send you will have the bolt and the spacer that goes in between those ears on the body. It will also have bolts where the master cylinder bolts in but you do not need to use them, they are just there to hold it all together.
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Re: working on replacing brake Master cylinder

Unread post by rickf » April 14th, 2021, 6:48 pm

Dave, check your PM's.
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Re: working on replacing brake Master cylinder

Unread post by 70mford151a2 » April 15th, 2021, 1:21 pm

Rick, I checked my PMs and answered them. I was wondering about the rear bolt but you have answered it, the new Master cylinder arrived yesterday and the touch of paint for the floor arrived today wheels are turning take care dave :roll:
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Re: working on replacing brake Master cylinder

Unread post by rickf » April 15th, 2021, 4:57 pm

I sent you another PM after you sent Me the payment info. outbox shows you read it but I never got an answer. The pedal assemblys I have are not drilled for the brake switch so you will have to drill the two holes for the switch. I don't want to send it until I get verification that you still want them.
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Re: working on replacing brake Master cylinder

Unread post by 70mford151a2 » April 16th, 2021, 3:39 pm

Rick I did answer or I tried to, sometimes they don't go thru not sure why
on the brake light switch is the mount for the rod there the one that goes to the brake pedal? if not I guess I can use my brake pedal[attachment=0]rod
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Re: working on replacing brake Master cylinder

Unread post by 70mford151a2 » April 16th, 2021, 3:46 pm

That might have been confusing what I meant was if the hole isn't there for the brake switch is the mount on the brake pedal for the actuator rod to the switch little l bracket with a hole on it
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if it doesn't have one do you think I could just use my brake pedal in the new bracket?
Dave ps I have no problem drilling the holes for the switch. I must be having problems with the PM cause I have answered many notes but it doesn't go thru
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