Paint Manufacturers

Cobra5 · Unread post by **Cobra5** » February 14th, 2008, 10:19 pm

Okay guys I'm getting close to painting and I'd like to get your opinions on what paint manufacturer to use. I'm going to go the camo route and finish with a matt clear coat.

Floyd · Unread post by **Floyd** » February 15th, 2008, 8:39 pm

Tim A number of people swear by Gillespie paints. I like the paint. Try this link.

http://www.armyjeepparts.com/order_page ... ttom_1.htm

This is another link that I just fell into while surfing. Looks interesting.

http://www.milspray.com/index.html

Good luck in your quest.

Floyd

mrdibbles · Unread post by **mrdibbles** » February 15th, 2008, 9:15 pm

I strongly suggest you go Gillespie. The best dealer for that I know is RAPCO. They sell more of it than anyone and because of that it's always fresh. Gillespie is GREAT paint. I tried the Aervoe brand and had horrific results. Here's the link to RAPCO. The guy's name is Mark Dodd.

http://www.rapcoparts.com/

k8icu · Unread post by **k8icu** » February 15th, 2008, 11:41 pm

Rapco is the official distributor of the paint from the manufacture. He actually sells the paint to the other vendors. I know because I looked into buying from Gillispie and was promptly told to go speak to Rapco.

I have used both Aervoe and Gillispie and I personnally think that Aervoe sucks. It fades very quickly and just is not a good paint. Gillispie is easy to shoot and the color stays for a long time.

raymond · Unread post by **raymond** » February 16th, 2008, 12:50 am

Gillespie is also available in rattle cans for touchup or small parts. Aervoe may also be available in rattle cans but It seems that Gillespie is the brand of choice for the M151.

Cobra5 · Unread post by **Cobra5** » February 16th, 2008, 6:30 pm

Thanks guys,

I'll have to check and see if they will ship. I remember there's one place that will not ship. I thought I could go to an auto paint supplier give them the mil spec and they could mix up a batch. I never heard of Gillespie. I was thinking more along the lines of regular auto paint but I'm guessing this brand is more durable, right? What do you guys think about finishing with a matt clear coat for added protection?

mrdibbles · Unread post by **mrdibbles** » February 16th, 2008, 6:49 pm

m-11 wrote:Thanks guys,

I'll have to check and see if they will ship. I remember there's one place that will not ship. I thought I could go to an auto paint supplier give them the mil spec and they could mix up a batch. I never heard of Gillespie. I was thinking more along the lines of regular auto paint but I'm guessing this brand is more durable, right? What do you guys think about finishing with a matt clear coat for added protection?

I don't think it is necessary to treat it with any clear coat. A trick that works really well, once the paint has cured, is to "seal" it with Pledge. The pledge has UV protection in it and it will also seal the paint so you can wipe off any oil that you might spill on it. I was provided this tip by a long time restorer of MVs and his 10 year old Jeeps still look new. It will darken the color a little bit but it doesn't bother me one bit. Also... the Gillespie is VERY forgiving paint. It goes on easy, is not prone to running, and RAPCO absolutely does ship. Get yourself plenty of spray cans too. You will use them for touch ups and to hit areas you've missed. They blend perfectly.

Cobra5 · Unread post by **Cobra5** » February 16th, 2008, 7:01 pm

I just checked out Rapco and I noticed they do ship. The 4 gal package deal seems to be the cheapest. How much green paint did you use on your project? I'm thinking I'll shoot the green and perhaps rattle can the other 3 colors. What do you think?

mrdibbles · Unread post by **mrdibbles** » February 16th, 2008, 7:12 pm

m-11 wrote:I just checked out Rapco and I noticed they do ship. The 4 gal package deal seems to be the cheapest. How much green paint did you use on your project? I'm thinking I'll shoot the green and perhaps rattle can the other 3 colors. What do you think?

I think two gallons is the rule for a 1/4 ton. I'd go that route and buy a couple cases of rattle. Trust me you're gonna find a use for them.

k8icu · Unread post by **k8icu** » February 17th, 2008, 1:01 pm

You will not use a full gallon to do the base color and then the other colors are even less. But like all of us we find other uses for the extra paint including repainting the wheelbarrow, the lawn mower etc...

You can get automotive paint, but the PITA about it is it is expensive to use and you'll have to mix the paint up. You'll get a gallon of the color, plus then you'll have to mix in a ratio of flatner, plus a ratio of hardner, plus thinner. Each item cost and the price adds up to over $100 for just one gallon of paint. Where as the Gillispie is less than $50 for a gallon (I haven't priced it lately) and it's ready to go. Just thin and shoot. And both the auto paint and the Gillispie are about the same in durability.

Cobra5 · Unread post by **Cobra5** » February 17th, 2008, 1:53 pm

I use both Dupont and PPG products at work. The PPG epoxy primer is the only one I've had to use a reducer. I've heard the automotive paints are thinner than what I've been using. The Gillispie sounds like a good product with no mixing and reasonably priced. However, with the added cost of shipping it may cost me more than buying automotive paint locally. This I will have to check into.

raymond · Unread post by **raymond** » February 17th, 2008, 5:27 pm

I think one of the best things about the Gillespie paint is that the rattle cans match the color of the gallons perfectly, and the touch ups using them blend right in. The only thing about using it, is you have to wait a while to put your stuff back on the tub, as it is really an implement paint similar to what is used on tractors, etc. It stays "soft" for a while, so if you put your seats, top bows, etc on too soon, it will always show. I took my jeep home after painting and left it in the garage for a few days with a kerosene heater and a couple of electric space heaters running,(kept the garage at around 115 degrees Fahrenheit) and it "set" the paint real nice. Had it been summer, I could have achieved the same results just pushing it out in the sun during the day. Anyone who has set on any 24087 paint after it set in the sun while wearing shorts knows what I mean.

moose53 · Unread post by **moose53** » February 17th, 2008, 5:30 pm

raymond wrote:I think one of the best things about the Gillespie paint is that the rattle cans match the color of the gallons perfectly, and the touch ups using them blend right in.

thats true, and they matched the original paint on my jeep and trailer perfectly too. I wont use anything else.

Jim

Cobra5 · Unread post by **Cobra5** » February 19th, 2008, 12:01 am

Okay while I'm on the subject of paint, can someone point me in the right direction for the different camo pattern colors? I remember reading it somewhere. It gave the different colors and the 3 and 4 color camo combos. It called the colors out by mil spec. Does this ring a bell with anyone?

moose53 · Unread post by **moose53** » February 19th, 2008, 4:30 am

3 color camo is: 34094 (383 green) 30051 (383 brown) and 911 (flat black)

4 color camo is: 34079 (forest green) 30118 (drab brown) 30277 (sand) and 911 (flat black)

viet nam era mutts were 24087 semi-gloss olive drab

Jim