Water pump DOA! cross to civilian part
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- whiterabbit
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Water pump DOA! cross to civilian part
More problems!
Water pump seals are toast or the shaft is rusty from sitting for a dozen yrs empty.
Wiki says: ■58-244 reman water pump from( A1 cardone)
Problem is I can't get it to cross ref at Advance or Autozone. I think I read the pump from an eary 60's Ford Falcon fits but you have to check clearance at a timing bolt.
Is it the one for a 1962 Ford Falcon with the 2.4L 144CI L6 Carb ??? Part # T2061 and 58-204. The pics of the part I think looks like it. A new pump and a remanufactured are listed for it.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/driv ... 7CL2*15018#
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/driv ... 7CL2*15018#
Water pump seals are toast or the shaft is rusty from sitting for a dozen yrs empty.
Wiki says: ■58-244 reman water pump from( A1 cardone)
Problem is I can't get it to cross ref at Advance or Autozone. I think I read the pump from an eary 60's Ford Falcon fits but you have to check clearance at a timing bolt.
Is it the one for a 1962 Ford Falcon with the 2.4L 144CI L6 Carb ??? Part # T2061 and 58-204. The pics of the part I think looks like it. A new pump and a remanufactured are listed for it.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/driv ... 7CL2*15018#
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/driv ... 7CL2*15018#
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Re: Water pump DOA! cross to civilian part
That does not appear to be the right one.
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Re: Water pump DOA! cross to civilian part
Try this one. http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/driv ... showTitle=#
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
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Re: Water pump DOA! cross to civilian part
Ok.
How about this one? Part number 58-244
PN# http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/driv ... showTitle=#
How about this one? Part number 58-244
PN# http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/driv ... showTitle=#
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M274 (sold) Big mistake. Sigh....
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Re: Water pump DOA! cross to civilian part
I posted that the same time as you!
Autozone looks to have the same one & same pics as that for $38 bucks!
S58-244
javascript:changeImage('http://contentinfo.autozone.com/znetcs/ ... 244/image/')
Alot cheaper!
"It’s the unconquerable soul of man, not the nature of the weapon he uses, that insures victory." Gen. George Patton
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1972 M151A2
1978 exMOD 109 Land Rover S3 (sold)
1942 WLA
M274 (sold) Big mistake. Sigh....
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1972 M151A2
1978 exMOD 109 Land Rover S3 (sold)
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Re: Water pump DOA! cross to civilian part
WhiteRabbit,
I tried to get pumps from Autozone, NAPA, and others, They were all out of stock at that time.
Try Erik's Military Supply, Eriksmilitarysurplus.com . Go to Military Vehicle Parts, then Cooling Systems. He has them listed for $68.00, if the other suppliers are out of stock.
Hope this helps, Cal
I tried to get pumps from Autozone, NAPA, and others, They were all out of stock at that time.
Try Erik's Military Supply, Eriksmilitarysurplus.com . Go to Military Vehicle Parts, then Cooling Systems. He has them listed for $68.00, if the other suppliers are out of stock.
Hope this helps, Cal
Re: Water pump DOA! cross to civilian part
yeah, keep us updated. Mine just dumped it's coolant on me the other day. So I might be looking too.
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Re: Water pump DOA! cross to civilian part
I'm going to swing by AZ tomorrow and have them order S58-244. Kinda' dislike AZ but if it's a good pump I'll deal with them.
Looks like I can swap the pump without pulling the whole front end.
Looks like I can swap the pump without pulling the whole front end.
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M274 (sold) Big mistake. Sigh....
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Re: Water pump DOA! cross to civilian part
Buy a rebuild kit and do it that way.
Riv-Rad has them reasonably.
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Riv-Rad has them reasonably.
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Re: Water pump DOA! cross to civilian part
I have a standing order from AutoZone for 20 of them and the last time I was able to get some was about 2 months ago. They are back ordered and not sure when they can get more from their supplier.
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Re: Water pump DOA! cross to civilian part
20!??? You want to make sure you never run out?
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
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Re: Water pump DOA! cross to civilian part
I got the A1 Cardone from Carquest a while back. While I didn't have to grind the "boss" off the casting. the impeller design was different from my original. My old one was fully caged kind of like a squirrel cage. The new one had individual vanes. The diameter was slightly too big to fit in the block so I had to grind a little off each one of the vanes. Has worked fine since.
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Re: Water pump DOA! cross to civilian part
Does anyone know what car these pumps fit? It would make tracking them down a little easier.
Went to AZ and ordered one, should be in tomorrow afternoon. When I get it I'll get some pics of the install and any differences between the original and aftermarket.
Went to AZ and ordered one, should be in tomorrow afternoon. When I get it I'll get some pics of the install and any differences between the original and aftermarket.
"It’s the unconquerable soul of man, not the nature of the weapon he uses, that insures victory." Gen. George Patton
1986-2014 Ordnance Corps RETIRED!
XVIII Airborne Corps Combat Affiliation
Go Ordnance!
1972 M151A2
1978 exMOD 109 Land Rover S3 (sold)
1942 WLA
M274 (sold) Big mistake. Sigh....
1986-2014 Ordnance Corps RETIRED!
XVIII Airborne Corps Combat Affiliation
Go Ordnance!
1972 M151A2
1978 exMOD 109 Land Rover S3 (sold)
1942 WLA
M274 (sold) Big mistake. Sigh....
Re: Water pump DOA! cross to civilian part
my research indicates a 1960's falcon(A1cardone #58-244)?, napa58-244, rebuilt part--arrow7-1197. this info was from old posts
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Re: Water pump DOA! cross to civilian part
seems to me someone posted they had to grind down part bof pump in order to pass a bolt head....but it worked..
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