M151A2 front wheels camber

[m38cdnbill]

Hello All,

Does someone has some pictures to show how we can adjust the front wheels camber? I searched in Internet and some websites say to place shims but it does not really say where. Does someone has already installed these shims and if so, could he put some pictures on this site?

I'm living in Canada and I own a M151A2 since three years. It's a very nice vehicle and I'm very satisfied to have this MUTT in my collection.



Thanks

[svramselaar]

hi

the lower arm is bolted with three bolds to the frame
the shims go between the frame and arm

george

[Fil Bonica]

Have you had the alignment checked by a front end shop?
Had two of mine aligned professionally .
Camber in both cases were in spec.
I would check things first
If you need some shims I can help.

Fil Bonica

[m38cdnbill]

Hi Fil and George,

On the passenger side, the wheel seems to have a lightly negative camber (+/- 1 degree) and I will send a picture tomorrow to have your opinion.

Best regards

Guy

[muttguru]

On the passenger side, the wheel seems to have a lightly negative camber (+/- 1 degree) and I will send a picture tomorrow to have your opinion. Guy

Guy, if the wheel (or wheels) camber and are closer together at the top than at the bottom, then most likely the problem is that the upper or lower ball-joint (or both), are worn to excess.
Ken

[muttguru]

On the passenger side, the wheel seems to have a lightly negative camber (+/- 1 degree) and I will send a picture tomorrow to have your opinion. Guy

Guy, if the wheel (or wheels) camber and are closer together at the top than at the bottom, then most likely the problem is that the upper or lower ball-joint (or both), are worn to excess. And here's how to check.....



Ken

[m38cdnbill]

Guy, if the wheel (or wheels) camber and are closer together at the top than at the bottom, then most likely the problem is that the upper or lower ball-joint (or both), are worn to excess.
Ken

Here is a picture of the passenger side wheel. As you can see, does the camber is negative? Upper and lower ball-joints are tights

[rickf]

Are the shim packs the same on both sides? If so and you put a level down the tires and it is in fact off, (looks fine to me) then you may have a bent part somewhere. Or your bushings may be worn. I do not have the specs in front of me but sometimes one side is different than the other in the specs to compensate for standard loads.

[m38cdnbill]

Are the shim packs the same on both sides?

Hi Rick, on what part of the front suspension are usually installed these shim packs?

[muttguru]

Here's a pic from the TM showing a shim and its location (shim is item #5 and #6).
You'll find more details in TM9-2320-218-34-1 dated August 1982 - page 9-31. You can download this TM for free at the link near the top of this page.

Ken

[richard]

Where can I buy these two different kind of shimes? I've seen them on my Mutt while changing bushings and balls last year on the front axle. Since that I think I have to check the camber, too. Went to my tire shop and they told me, that I first have to change the wheel bearings, because my wheel is having play in all directions. Not much, but must be done next.

[m38cdnbill]

Here's a pic from the TM showing a shim and its location (shim is item #5 and #6).
You'll find more details in TM9-2320-218-34-1 dated August 1982 - page 9-31. You can download this TM for free at the link near the top of this page.

Thanks Ken, I learned something important today and I downloaded this TM few minutes ago. I Checked and the number of shims is well not the same in the passenger side. Probably the toe is not good as well because there's not any shim at the rear bolted lower arm then there are on the other side. Anyway, I will check the entire front wheel alignment to be sure that it will be perfect.

For Fil, can I have some shims for the front and rear bolted lower arm? I think Richard wants to have some too.

Thanks to all for your advises

Best regards

Guy

[Fil Bonica]

How many of which?
Iwill only charge postage:

Fil Bonica

[rickf]

I am sure you know but the toe in is not set with the shims. Remember that there is also caster involved in the shimming process also, It is not just toe in and camber. If the number of shims are different side to side and the specs say the settings are the same then someone has done something wrong or there is a bent component. I lean towards the first, somebody screwed up. Assuming your ball joints and bearings are good and tight.

[m38cdnbill]

...Assuming your ball joints and bearings are good and tight...

Hi Rick,

When I bought this MUTT, I have changed all wheel bearings, bushings and shocks. Ball joints are OK and tight and lower and upper arms seem not bented. Anyway, I will check once again and I will send you a report tomorrow evening.

Best regards

Guy