All Chrome coils bad?

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All Chrome coils bad?

Unread post by whiterabbit » September 15th, 2014, 5:23 pm

Looking around and I see a dealer selling the chrome coils but claims they are US made by a Gov. contractor and they are Mil spec. Anybody here running one or know about them?
Thanks,
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Re: All Chrome coils bad?

Unread post by rickf » September 15th, 2014, 6:02 pm

I had heard there was a US contractor making coils bu I did not get to save the pertinent information. A lot of the off shore coils have the proper part number on them so be careful about that. I guess the only way to tell is buy one and test it. I was given one to replace one I gave out last year at the Virginia rally and it is supposedly us made and is packaged like it is. I have not really looked at it that closely. I will try to remember where I put it and check it out. I do remember it came from a M37 parts supplier probably since this was a M37. Rabbit knows what one from SS, it is the one Zout just did.

BTW, The chromie I gave him last year did not last very long.
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Re: All Chrome coils bad?

Unread post by raymond » September 15th, 2014, 7:12 pm

whiterabbit wrote:Looking around and I see a dealer selling the chrome coils but claims they are US made by a Gov. contractor and they are Mil spec. Anybody here running one or know about them?
Thanks,

Which dealer :?:
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Re: All Chrome coils bad?

Unread post by whiterabbit » September 15th, 2014, 7:27 pm

QTM Jeep parts,
Saw it on peebay, their seller name is wcfr4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/301275059196?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

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Was that Andy's M37? LOL! His dizzy cap went belly up at the last Ga. Oct rally! Truck looks sharp now except it's Squid gray. :lol:
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Re: All Chrome coils bad?

Unread post by Fil Bonica » September 15th, 2014, 7:37 pm

From a "doubtingThomas " like me if it isn't in a GI package I wouldn't believe any thing that is said.
Let the guy show who made it. Only then would I begin to think differently.


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Unread post by whiterabbit » September 15th, 2014, 9:01 pm

Tracked down QTM. it's Matt Fox, 423-762-5858 or mattfox@tvn.net
Anyone hear of him?
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Re: All Chrome coils bad?

Unread post by carolinamv » September 16th, 2014, 5:22 pm

How long is "not long" on how long a chrome coil last? A year? a month?

Erics Military Surplus gives a year warranty on them .
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Re: All Chrome coils bad?

Unread post by rickf » September 16th, 2014, 5:38 pm

QTM is who I was thinking of. I am pretty sure I heard that they are US made. Might be worth looking into.

Andy? Good thing I am not seeing Adam again this year or I would have fun with that! Yup, it was his and I am not surprised his cap went. It was only being held on with one screw, two if he found the one in the frame. :roll: :lol:

How long do they last? Ask Raymond, his blew up on the first start. Literally blew up! Jon Fal from Vietnam tested 20+ of them out of the box with a meter and only two pr three were within specs. They are junk. If it is all you can get then carry two of them, that is what I did until I got some NOS ones. They may replace one or two but after that you will be hard pressed to get a replacement.
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Re: All Chrome coils bad?

Unread post by carolinamv » September 16th, 2014, 7:28 pm

Dumb question , where can I find a NOS one?
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Re: All Chrome coils bad?

Unread post by vms1942 » September 16th, 2014, 9:46 pm

Not a dumb question from my view point, I would like to know who carries them also.
Mine came in a pretty brown box that looked Military, but when I opened it there was a chrome coil with a pretty little sticker on the bottom that said "Made In China".
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Re: All Chrome coils bad?

Unread post by whiterabbit » September 16th, 2014, 11:50 pm

I don't think I've seen a dealer with real military NOS ones. I have 2 used spares I found in dizzys tossed in the scrap bin. :shock:

Ooops, meant Adam.
Got it running, then got it stuck.
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Re: All Chrome coils bad?

Unread post by frenchman » September 17th, 2014, 12:15 am

check this dealer i think it is what a N.O.S coil in the box should look like
ebay#151408317902 little pricy
or buy a N.O.S complete distributor from blake at red river parts couple hundred box
it is what i did no probleme run great
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Re: All Chrome coils bad?

Unread post by rickf » September 17th, 2014, 6:45 am

Herein lies the problem, that appears to be a NOS coil with all of the proper documentation BUT, when did we go to bar codes? What I think is happening is the same as happened with the carburetors, the later contracts went overseas. Once the military got out of the business then the quality went south. I would bet that the coil shown with all of the paperwork would be a good coil but the shiny coil from the same company made after the contract is garbage.
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Re: All Chrome coils bad?

Unread post by halftracknut » September 17th, 2014, 9:01 am

External coil?
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Re: All Chrome coils bad?

Unread post by vms1942 » September 17th, 2014, 9:01 am

My made in China coil came in a box like that, but the label did not have a bar code. The label looked convincing though, proper numbers and nomenclature on it, but I was shocked to find a chrome coil inside. No documentation came with mine, nor any other components. I'm just afraid my Chinese coil is going to be the automotive equivalent of a Harbor Freight Tool... Good for a few runs then broken.
1942 WC-54, Restored and now in Fagen Memorial Museum, Granite Falls, MN
1942 Ben Hur Trailer Completed
1942 M3 Anti Tank Gun (Missouri Military Academy)
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1942 GPW, Matching serial numbers (Restoration pending)
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