Need photo of radio plate support leg

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Need photo of radio plate support leg

Post by mutt and jeff » July 28th, 2020, 2:45 pm

Want to install radios in my A1 that did not have any mounts by the PO, so no holes to go by. I've got the sponson plates that attach to the rear wheel well tops and the out lip of the tub. In order to have the rear seat be able to raise and lower, the plate needs to overhang the wheel well towards the front seats. Appears that I can pick up two bolt holes on the plate through the side of the weel wells, but some sort of support leg or strap appears to be needed from the forward mounting hole down to either the floor or the lower inside lip of the wheel well. I do not see that anyone offers these supports outside of coming with the plate and mounting kit. So if I can picture what this support looks like and exactly where it should bolt to the MUTT, I am sure I can fabricate something.

Any help appreciated. Or if there is an image in the manual that I have not come across yet, let me know.

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Re: Need photo of radio plate support leg

Post by m3a1 » July 28th, 2020, 3:03 pm

Not sure if I have a photo but I can assure you that this leg is really nothing special and can easily be made. You can go ahead with the rest of your installation and do it last. That leg is really just a bit of overkill on the part of the designers.

I will add that you will want to see how that radio kit might possibly interfere with the passenger seat being able to adjust forward or backwards.

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Re: Need photo of radio plate support leg

Post by rickf » July 28th, 2020, 3:13 pm

That support is far from over kill with radios weighing 50-60 lbs. on sheet metal fenders. tere are supposed to be supports under the fenders where the mounts sit also. There is a specific mounting kit for that mount that has all those goodies in it but I haven't seen one for a while. I lost mine and have been looking for a replacement for some time now. I can get a pic of my support bracket but it will have to wait until tomorrow morning, it is sitting right on 100 degrees right now and substantially higher than that in the garage.
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Re: Need photo of radio plate support leg

Post by Mark » July 28th, 2020, 3:36 pm

[img][https://i.postimg.cc/gJgjkBdT/RADIO-SUP ... -BRACE.png Ok here I hope it pastes on the site, I forgot the easy way, I never bolted it on
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Re: Need photo of radio plate support leg

Post by mutt and jeff » July 28th, 2020, 4:43 pm

Perfect!

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Post by Mark » July 28th, 2020, 5:32 pm

Long time ago they had metal braces for the crossarm on distribution power lines, which looked like it, the length was 28"?Been so long my memory is sporadic !!
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Re: Need photo of radio plate support leg

Post by 1SGCAV77 » July 28th, 2020, 5:37 pm

The manual for installation of radio in M151 series. TM 11-2300-351-14&P-22. The install kit is MK-1234/GCR. The TM I found on line. Lots of nice pictures to go along with install. I bought my RT 524, mount, and install kit from Steve Haney in Cleburne,TEXAS. Will send pictures. I will move Jeep out in the bright TEXAS sun and take more pictures if needed.
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Re: Need photo of radio plate support leg

Post by 1SGCAV77 » July 28th, 2020, 5:50 pm

Most of you may know this trick about bright white markings for your radio. I didn’t. I wasn’t a commo guy. Knuckle buster.
After a very good scrubbing to remove years of dirty fingers use a white crayon. Yes, you may have to borrow from grandkids crayon box. My grandson never missed it. Keeping crayon sharp pointed, rub it in. Wallah. Good enough.
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Re: Need photo of radio plate support leg

Post by Mark » July 28th, 2020, 5:51 pm

https://i.postimg.cc/fRPLZ5S5/Screen-Sh ... -PM.pngurl]https://i.postimg.cc/fRPLZ5S5/Screen-Sh ... PM.png/url] A pic of the brace aligned with existing hole/ where I think it should be(vertical)
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Re: Need photo of radio plate support leg

Post by Mark » July 28th, 2020, 6:07 pm

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Re: Need photo of radio plate support leg

Post by 1SGCAV77 » July 28th, 2020, 6:14 pm

Ok I found one other piece of radio puzzle. TM 11-5985-262-14 is for proper install of Antenna AS-1729/VCR and mounting brackets. Also on line. I am not a “purest”. Just like the Jeep and trailer to look like they did back in the day. As to what Rickf was saying about the brackets needed for the weight on the fender.....when properly mounted support braces are a MUST.
The brackets are easily fabricated from 1 inch wide, 1/8 thick steel. Available at Home Depot. When properly mounted the rear seat will fold up.
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Re: Need photo of radio plate support leg

Post by m3a1 » July 28th, 2020, 11:23 pm

1SGCAV77 wrote:
July 28th, 2020, 6:14 pm
Ok I found one other piece of radio puzzle. TM 11-5985-262-14 is for proper install of Antenna AS-1729/VCR and mounting brackets. Also on line. I am not a “purest”. Just like the Jeep and trailer to look like they did back in the day. As to what Rickf was saying about the brackets needed for the weight on the fender.....when properly mounted support braces are a MUST.
The brackets are easily fabricated from 1 inch wide, 1/8 thick steel. Available at Home Depot. When properly mounted the rear seat will fold up.
That's the theory anyway. When I did my install, I used the original holes for the radio mounts and guess what....The rear seat wouldn't fold up. Probably originally installed by Pvt. Snuffy at 3PM on a Friday.

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Re: Need photo of radio plate support leg

Post by 1SGCAV77 » July 29th, 2020, 9:33 am

Better pictures perhaps. The picture of support bracket is little dark. Apologies.
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Re: Need photo of radio plate support leg

Post by mutt and jeff » July 30th, 2020, 6:05 pm

Got them both in this afternoon. Made our own support straps from bar stock. Split the difference in forward to aft mounting. The seat bottom will lieft up and down and clear, the top will not fold down flat without hitting the mounting plate. Any further forward and I would not have been able to pick up the two center mounting bolts in the inside surface of the wheel well as they would have been forward of the wheel arch. And the support leg would have barely caught the lip of the wheel arch. I think this is close enough for government work.

Working on the battery terminal block and radio connections now. My son, Bryant, is a licensed ameteur radio operator and wants to take the rig to the next field day. Fingers crossed.

Thanks to all who helped with direction and motivation to get this done. Waiting on manifold gasket and exhaust gaskets to arrive so I can get back to the engine manifold installation.
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