WTB: Fill Device

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WTB: Fill Device

Unread post by moose53 » February 15th, 2009, 9:31 pm

I'm looking for a fill device for commsec equipment. usable devices would be :

Common Fill Device KOI-18
Electronic Fill Device KYK-13
Data Transfer Device AN/CYZ-10
Data transfer Device AN/PYQ-10
Net Control Device KYX-15A

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Unread post by cstaup » February 17th, 2009, 8:29 am

Would that still be considered a sensitive item?
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Re: WTB: Fill Device

Unread post by ida34 » February 17th, 2009, 11:48 am

I got a fill device off ebay a while ago. I can't remember what the nomenclature is of the one I have. I don't really want to part with it but wanted to show they do come available from time to time.

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Re: WTB: Fill Device

Unread post by rickf » February 17th, 2009, 1:08 pm

Alright, Alright! What the hell is a fill device? I always figured it was a funnel or spout for a gas can. :? :?


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Re: WTB: Fill Device

Unread post by ida34 » February 17th, 2009, 5:57 pm

I don't know the exact technicals but it is basically is a code generator for secure mode on the radios. All the radios need the be given the "fill" from the device so it can talk to the other secure radios. I am pretty sure they were not used when the unit upgraded to singars. We had a lot of problems with radios loosing the fill and having to be refilled with the file device.

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Re: WTB: Fill Device

Unread post by rickf » February 17th, 2009, 6:02 pm

""We had a lot of problems with radios loosing the fill and having to be refilled with the file device.""


OK, That explains it. :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :roll: :roll: :? :? :? :? :? :?

Still sounds like a damn funnel to me!


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Unread post by Mr. Recovery » February 17th, 2009, 7:52 pm

Hey rick, I need a 5gal. can of compression grease for the recoil system on this gun, do you think they have one at the motor pool?? :roll:

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Re: WTB: Fill Device

Unread post by moose53 » February 17th, 2009, 9:19 pm

The Vinson stuff is being surplused off now that the VRC-12 family of radios is officially obsolete as of October of last year. Thats when the national guard announced it had completed replacing them with the current ICOM stuff. The newer radios have the scramblers built in and use OTAR (over the air rekeying) to change codes or a network control device that changes the net all at once. I have a fill device for the newer sincgars radios but it wont work with the older VRC-12 stuff. The KY-57 had 6 key positions. 1-5 were variables that had to match other radios to decypher voice transmissions. The 6th slot was the key to change the other 5 over the air... not that I'd know about that of course.... :wink:

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Re: WTB: Fill Device

Unread post by rickf » February 18th, 2009, 7:30 am

Damn Sparky's, They got to play with all of the good stuff. All I got to do was blow things up. :roll:

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Unread post by rickf » February 18th, 2009, 7:32 am

OK Dan, Now you are going to make me drool all over my keyboard!

I don't have the compression grease but I might have the filler for it. :lol:


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Unread post by Mr. Recovery » February 18th, 2009, 10:42 am

Rick, if you don't find the "grease" then I'll need the "key" for the "hydrostatic lock" :roll: :lol:

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Re: WTB: Fill Device

Unread post by rickf » February 18th, 2009, 12:26 pm

Talk later, Hope all is well.

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Unread post by EagleDustoff » June 9th, 2010, 12:10 am

Ok let me think here? Moose you are Correct! The KY-57 was the main form of securing radios from the PRC-77 to the RTs 524 and 526 and 442 all the way up to the us of the MSE systems it was the reason for getting rid of the SOIs. Thats about all i can remember. Other than it was a PITA to load the KY-57. Its nothing like the Singars used today. they are even getting smaller. And For Dan didnt anyone tell you Ambulances and Arty dont mix. Nice M119 you got there. I got way to much time on them!!!!!!! from back at Campbell back in the 90s

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Unread post by ida34 » June 9th, 2010, 12:24 am

I was still at Campbell when Divarty went from M102 to the M119. I was in C Battery 5/8 FAR or the M198 155mm unit. I left for Korea in 1992 and was out by 1993. I think they started the change over just after we got back from Desert Storm.

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Unread post by EagleDustoff » June 9th, 2010, 3:40 am

I was with HSB 1-320 TOP GUNS 95-98

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