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81MM Mortar

Post by 1SGCAV77 » November 11th, 2020, 11:25 am

I attended a meeting at a camp ground this past weekend of our club. First one since March. Had 60 members and wives in attendance. One brought his mortar. This weapon is what I went to AIT for. Brought back lots of memories. Just wanted to share. I fired Expert at AIT and four years following before going to motor pool. That short round from 3 gun was enough for me. No more. That one almost killed us.
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Re: 81MM Mortar

Post by rickf » November 11th, 2020, 3:10 pm

I thought those rounds don't arm until they fly a certain distance just for that reason?
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Re: 81MM Mortar

Post by m3a1 » November 11th, 2020, 5:06 pm

Don't want to sound like a know-it-all but in the photo, isn't that bipod on there backwards? I thought the crank was always supposed to go toward the rear.

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Re: 81MM Mortar

Post by 1SGCAV77 » November 11th, 2020, 6:10 pm

That’s a fact on both counts. Round has to spin to arm it’s self. Still that was enough for me. To see last round on 3 gun come out on fire not good. I was base gun #2. Yes bipod is installed backward. Gunner needs to traverse and elevate. Owner wasn’t mortar trained. Just has some loose change to purchase.
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Re: 81MM Mortar

Post by 1SGCAV77 » November 11th, 2020, 9:27 pm

This recoilless also belonged to fellow with the mortar.
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Re: 81MM Mortar

Post by rickf » November 12th, 2020, 10:04 am

Not very well versed on trailer tie down is he? Tied to those thin uprights on a landscape trailer and to the bumper and not the axle is just asking for trouble. And the looped "safety chain" with the twisted links and what looks like a J hook hanging on the front of the trailer.............

My trailer is also a landscape trailer so I know how weak those uprights are. I welded tie downs on the front and down both sides. Tying to the bumper allows the suspension to bounce and beat the mounting points to death. Tying to the axle the body can move naturally with the suspension and is a much better ride for the vehicle and for the trailer.
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Re: 81MM Mortar

Post by 1SGCAV77 » November 12th, 2020, 11:44 am

Haha. I agree Rick. Is apparent he never worked recovery, military or civilian. Also apparent he didn’t attend schooling the Air Force gives prior to loading on their aircraft. I went to a three day course to load on C-130. Always amazes me to see so much effort put on tie down to keep from falling off the rear of trailer. I haven’t seen hauler with that kind of power to drive out from under one. Have witnessed to many panic stop failures. My rear tie down for Jeep on hauler. Am always open to suggestions and comments
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Re: 81MM Mortar

Post by rickf » November 12th, 2020, 12:03 pm

I like the neatly stowed tag ends on the straps. That is kind of overkill but that is a lot bettor than not enough. And the argument for crossed or straight is like which oil to use. I use straight mainly because if one lets go on crossed the other one will pull the load off to that side. In your case you would have to have two let go and the odds are pretty slim.
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Re: 81MM Mortar

Post by m3a1 » November 12th, 2020, 1:07 pm

Good heavens! I'm betting 1SGCAV77's sock drawer is equally as well organized! :lol:

But seriously....looks like you made a good job of tying that down, man!

I investigated accidents for 30 years (plus some private work on the side) and since we are on the subject of load securement let me make a suggestion for our readers to think about.

Photographing your load securement before you roll can have some undeniable legal benefits (particularly when you are doing it correctly)...which is to say that such evidence may serve to protect you in litigation later on when the lawyers get involved. If your load securement and/or your equipment is inadequate, well then, maybe not so much but the fact remains, we live in a litigious society.

A lot of seemingly strange things happen in accidents (all of which actually have identifiable causes) but when claims are made against you, having something with which to defend yourself is far better than having nothing at all, for several reasons. The top two are - the care you take and the appearance you make.

A great many people out there think we are all just a bunch of backwoods yahoos simply because we're gear heads with 'old iron' that most folks wouldn't ever contemplate having, much less enjoying....and they are more than likely going to be quick to try to capitalize on that belief if they think you are going to be an easy target. Being able to show you have (and have had) all your ducks in a row from the gittyup goes a long way when a lawyer is sizing you up and considering whether or not he'll make a quick buck on you. So be a hard target to hit.

Taking great care and consideration on the matter or your load securement and the quality of the equipment you use for hauling; being able to show proof of that care and consideration can really lead to good outcomes if the fecal material hits the Westinghouse and you find yourself staring down a pack of lawyers. So, let's get those smart phones out and document each and every trip. Check, check and recheck your equipment, your load and your load securement often...then, Keep 'em Rolling!

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