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WC Matt
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by WC Matt » February 21st, 2010, 4:38 pm
Francis Marion wrote:WC Matt wrote:Kind of thought that they would have replaced them years ago with something more modern like an MP5 or one of the 10" barrel CARs.
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I have not seen any in the Army inventory but the State Department has recently started issuing M4's with 10" uppers.
Didn't the State Dept go to those a couple of years ago? As for the 10" uppers on ARs, 5.56X45mm has abismal performance out of anything less than 12". Even the 14" barrels used on the M4 (not the 16" on civi versions) leaves something to be desired. 'nuff said about that.
A friend of mine was an armorer, served in the 82nd ABN back in the late 70s/early 80s and he mentioned building some custom 10" uppers out of commercial componants for some of the officers in the Div. I think they just used them as OPFOR weapons though.
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by Francis Marion » February 22nd, 2010, 3:26 am
The 10" uppers have only started showing up here in Baghdad withing the past year. I can still be pretty accurate with the 14" on my M4 out to 600m but the 10" barrels are having problems at 100m.
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by muttero » February 22nd, 2010, 10:27 am
Woooouuuu,
Tons of info, but seems there is not a particularly manual. My problem is that I do not know what weapons are you talking about, and how do they looks like. Have you got pics???
Would like to know the easiest gun to mount, and where to find it.
Francis, What are u doing in Irak??
Thanks to all who have help in this thread.
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by rickf » February 22nd, 2010, 11:48 am
Easiest and most used are the M16 rifle which the mounts are readily available and the M60 machine gun which uses the M4 pedestal. The mounts are available but not cheap. That combination would cover all of the Vietnam era and beyond.
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by WC Matt » February 22nd, 2010, 12:15 pm
rickf wrote:Easiest and most used are the M16 rifle which the mounts are readily available and the M60 machine gun which uses the M4 pedestal. The mounts are available but not cheap. That combination would cover all of the Vietnam era and beyond.
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You really can't go wrong with this set up.......
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by muttero » February 24th, 2010, 11:17 am
Ok got it, but for all those weapons you are talking about I have to drill holes in my mutt, don´t I?? Thats a thing I hate......
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109" lightweight LR Santana
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1956 Motobecane Av78
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by Ralph Fuller » February 24th, 2010, 1:38 pm
Rick got it right with the M-16 and the M-60......nuff said.
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by David » February 24th, 2010, 3:06 pm
muttero wrote:Ok got it, but for all those weapons you are talking about I have to drill holes in my mutt, don´t I?? Thats a thing I hate......
Cool accessories require holes.
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by BG6 » April 3rd, 2010, 12:05 am
Francis Marion wrote:The collapsible stock was not available until late '94 or early '95 which is well after the US had replaced the 151
Gee, I must be getting senile, I distinctly remember a collapsible stock on the "CAR" shorty (XM177E1) which was issued from 1968 onward to select users as a replacement for the Submachinegun, M1A1, .45 Caliber (Thompson) and Submachinegun, M3, .45 Caliber ("Grease Gun") and Carbine, .30 Caliber M1.
But hey, what do I know anyhow . . ?
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by WC Matt » April 3rd, 2010, 9:22 am
ida34 wrote:Ralph mentioned the M3 Grease Gun. When I was in armorer's school in Korea in 1993 I was surprised to fine them still teaching the M3 maintenance. It seems the grease gun was still in the inventory and I was told armor units still use the M3. Not much maintenance on an M3. That block of instruction was pretty short.
A friend of mine was in Afghanistan back around '03/'04 (Army) he had scrounged an M3A1 grease gun that they used to keep around for "plinking" with.
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by moose53 » April 4th, 2010, 4:10 am
BG6 wrote:Francis Marion wrote:The collapsible stock was not available until late '94 or early '95 which is well after the US had replaced the 151
Gee, I must be getting senile, I distinctly remember a collapsible stock on the "CAR" shorty (XM177E1) which was issued from 1968 onward to select users as a replacement for the Submachinegun, M1A1, .45 Caliber (Thompson) and Submachinegun, M3, .45 Caliber ("Grease Gun") and Carbine, .30 Caliber M1.
But hey, what do I know anyhow . . ?
Have a couple of those myself...... The Air force issued them to Security Police back then too...
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