My first attempt at photos of some of my stuff
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Ok, here we go. When I bought the MUTT it had no data tags, save for the BUDD tag on the firewall. I was (and still am) quite ignorant about MUTT's. Since the engine had the smog stuff on it, I figured through some basic reading that it had to be at least an early 1970's. I just picked a year (1974) and had the State DMV lady come out and put a new State ID tag on it. I titled it as an AM General. (Which proved to be a relative pain when it came to insurance --but that's a whole separate thread)
THEN, I discovered that only Fords had that BUDD tag. Wonderful, just wonderful. I own a Ford, titled as an AM General.
THEN I was surfing on another military vehicle website that primarily deals with flat-fender jeeps, (that shall remain nameless), and a discussion came up about being able to identify an A2 by the curve on the front of the fenders. That curve could determine if it was a Ford or an AM General. I never gave it another thought. A couple of days later I was over at a local militaria-collectable store (that you guys should really check out!). On the wall was a calendar our MV club had made. The photo for the month happened to be my MUTT. ( The owner of that business is also a member and you guys probably know him from Lodi/Camp Delta-his name is Duane, the guy with all the patches) Anyway, I glanced at that photo and LO AND BEHOLD...my MUTT had both straight and curved fenders! I went home and uncovered my MUTT. Sure enough, somewhere along the line mine ended up with both. One of each.
Now I know exactly where my MUTT came from (that's all I am going to say about that), and evidently whilst it was in service, sometime from when it was on the production line and when it left official duty, it appropriated this oddity.
Now for the Goat, it is indeed fully licensed and insured. Street legal. I drive it whenever need be. Idaho has a provision for what's known as "Old-Timer" plates. The vehicle has to be at least 30 years old. They cost about $9 for three years. The only thing is you cannot use it as a daily driver. No problem there. Insurance is about $60 a year. I have the same type of plates on my 5-ton.( I have restored the Goat to comm-model, complete with a gaggle of radios, receivers, intercoms, field phones,etc)
THEN, I discovered that only Fords had that BUDD tag. Wonderful, just wonderful. I own a Ford, titled as an AM General.
THEN I was surfing on another military vehicle website that primarily deals with flat-fender jeeps, (that shall remain nameless), and a discussion came up about being able to identify an A2 by the curve on the front of the fenders. That curve could determine if it was a Ford or an AM General. I never gave it another thought. A couple of days later I was over at a local militaria-collectable store (that you guys should really check out!). On the wall was a calendar our MV club had made. The photo for the month happened to be my MUTT. ( The owner of that business is also a member and you guys probably know him from Lodi/Camp Delta-his name is Duane, the guy with all the patches) Anyway, I glanced at that photo and LO AND BEHOLD...my MUTT had both straight and curved fenders! I went home and uncovered my MUTT. Sure enough, somewhere along the line mine ended up with both. One of each.
Now I know exactly where my MUTT came from (that's all I am going to say about that), and evidently whilst it was in service, sometime from when it was on the production line and when it left official duty, it appropriated this oddity.
Now for the Goat, it is indeed fully licensed and insured. Street legal. I drive it whenever need be. Idaho has a provision for what's known as "Old-Timer" plates. The vehicle has to be at least 30 years old. They cost about $9 for three years. The only thing is you cannot use it as a daily driver. No problem there. Insurance is about $60 a year. I have the same type of plates on my 5-ton.( I have restored the Goat to comm-model, complete with a gaggle of radios, receivers, intercoms, field phones,etc)
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Don't feel bad, I have an AM General titled as a Ford lolBill, Idaho wrote: I titled it as an AM General. (Which proved to be a relative pain when it came to insurance --but that's a whole separate thread)
THEN, I discovered that only Fords had that BUDD tag. Wonderful, just wonderful. I own a Ford, titled as an AM General.
Jim
Zigzag50, Northeast51, KC2QDZ
MVPA # 30032 G838.org
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1971 G838-M151A2 1966 G857-M416
1968 G748-M101A1 1976 G748-M116A1
1990 MEP-701A
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Real jeeps have horizontal grille slots
MVPA # 30032 G838.org
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1971 G838-M151A2 1966 G857-M416
1968 G748-M101A1 1976 G748-M116A1
1990 MEP-701A
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Real jeeps have horizontal grille slots
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Rickf, I should clarify myself. I am quite content with my insurance companies (State Farm) coverage of all my MV's. I have a "special-use" policy. I forget the actual name of the policy. They have to look like original for the most part, no daily driver, and I had to give them some type of value. Oh yeah, a photo. I guess som eother policies say the MV has to be stored inside a garage along with other certain particulars. Not so with my policy. As I think about it, the policy limitations pretty well match the limitations for the license plates on them. It's about $60 a year for each one, as I recall.
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is this right- Ford had the straight bottom and AM Gen had the curvy one?
Author M-151 MUTT, The Vietnam Jeep
Paper edition http://www.blurb.com/books/1646321
IOS ebook iBookstore: http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/id598605516
2 M151A2s, M416 trailer, M274A5 Mule,
Former Army Aviator, Bien Hoa, VN 1968-69
Mustang Gunship Platoon Commander
68th Assault Helicopter Company 'Top Tigers'
Central Florida and France
Paper edition http://www.blurb.com/books/1646321
IOS ebook iBookstore: http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/id598605516
2 M151A2s, M416 trailer, M274A5 Mule,
Former Army Aviator, Bien Hoa, VN 1968-69
Mustang Gunship Platoon Commander
68th Assault Helicopter Company 'Top Tigers'
Central Florida and France
Thats right, there were a few other differences, but that's the main one, easy to spot without even getting close loltoptiger wrote:is this right- Ford had the straight bottom and AM Gen had the curvy one?
Jim
Zigzag50, Northeast51, KC2QDZ
MVPA # 30032 G838.org
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1971 G838-M151A2 1966 G857-M416
1968 G748-M101A1 1976 G748-M116A1
1990 MEP-701A
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Real jeeps have horizontal grille slots
MVPA # 30032 G838.org
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1971 G838-M151A2 1966 G857-M416
1968 G748-M101A1 1976 G748-M116A1
1990 MEP-701A
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Real jeeps have horizontal grille slots
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BUDD
Me too Bill, but my lack of understanding begins with...
Ford got out of the M151 business in 1964 or so. At least that's
what I seem to have in my memory. That would exclude the
majority of the A1's and all of the A2's. Don't be surprised that
I'm wrong, cause I'm clearly confused. Again.
As for Gamagoats, I'm a veteran of those too. School trained
and goat swimmer and operator 1975-76. I loved those things!
Wear hearing protection, the ringing in my left ear never went
away.
Rainman
Ford got out of the M151 business in 1964 or so. At least that's
what I seem to have in my memory. That would exclude the
majority of the A1's and all of the A2's. Don't be surprised that
I'm wrong, cause I'm clearly confused. Again.
As for Gamagoats, I'm a veteran of those too. School trained
and goat swimmer and operator 1975-76. I loved those things!
Wear hearing protection, the ringing in my left ear never went
away.
Rainman
M151 World Land Speed Record Holder
The original A2's were Fords, mine is a 71. AMG started making them in 72
Jim
Jim
Zigzag50, Northeast51, KC2QDZ
MVPA # 30032 G838.org
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1971 G838-M151A2 1966 G857-M416
1968 G748-M101A1 1976 G748-M116A1
1990 MEP-701A
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Real jeeps have horizontal grille slots
MVPA # 30032 G838.org
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1971 G838-M151A2 1966 G857-M416
1968 G748-M101A1 1976 G748-M116A1
1990 MEP-701A
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Real jeeps have horizontal grille slots
confused
Thanks moose,
That accounts for my confusion. My 71's an AMG. make and titled.
Don't know why I had the idea Ford was out of it by then. Also
learned about the Ford fenders and AMG drop fenders, it's been
a good day!
Rainman
That accounts for my confusion. My 71's an AMG. make and titled.
Don't know why I had the idea Ford was out of it by then. Also
learned about the Ford fenders and AMG drop fenders, it's been
a good day!
Rainman
M151 World Land Speed Record Holder