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Postby sarmadq » March 15th, 2011, 3:06 am

Hi all,
Hope everyone's well and stays well, my heart goes out to the nation of Japan. They are seeing some though times and may God ease their sufferings.

Now for an accessory that I've had for sometime and always wanted to figure out the working of the top valve. Can anyone help :?: :!:

The canteen
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The top - screw on cap, with a flip top opening too.
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The top uncapped. You can see a valve in there.
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The inside of the cap has this rubber funnel thingy
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When I remove the funnel thingy, the valve is exposed
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My question is; what's all this for ?
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Re: Canteen - Info required

Postby Jay Mallari » March 15th, 2011, 5:47 am

I think the cap allows you to connect a hose to enable you to drink with the NBC mask on?
I'm sure someone here will give you an accurate answer.

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Re: Canteen - Info required

Postby tbanks » March 15th, 2011, 6:58 am

Jay you are correst.It is used in conjunction with the NBC gas mask M17? I think.Too many numbers in my head this morning.It allowed a soldier to hydrate without removing his protective gear.
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Postby WC Matt » March 15th, 2011, 7:25 am

tbanks wrote:Jay you are correst.It is used in conjunction with the NBC gas mask M17? I think.Too many numbers in my head this morning.It allowed a soldier to hydrate without removing his protective gear.


It was the M17A1 that had the drinking aperatus on it to allow use of a canteen so adapted with that top. That cap was an accessory that came with all of the NBC gear*. It was not in wide spread issue prior to the first gulf war but, was available. With the M17 series of masks, a person could hydrate while wearing one but would have to hold his/her breath for about 5-8 mins while they removed the mask to do a filter change (hope it's not a blister agent).

There was also a device that allows a person wearing said gas mask to perform mouth to mouth resusatation on someone.

* I'll have to double check this with my "source".
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Postby muttguru » March 15th, 2011, 8:30 am

WC Matt wrote:It was the M17A1 that had the drinking aperatus on it to allow use of a canteen so adapted with that top. That cap was an accessory that came with all of the NBC gear*. It was not in wide spread issue prior to the first gulf war but, was available. There was also a device that allows a person wearing said gas mask to perform mouth to mouth resusatation on someone.

* I'll have to double check this with my "source".
Matt


Matt,
correct. I've got the full setup, incl mask, bottle, resuscitation tube, winterization filters and hood. Great for Halloween parties !

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The tube connects to the valve on top of the canteen and there's a mouthpiece inside the mask to enable you to drink.

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Re: Canteen - Info required

Postby sarmadq » March 15th, 2011, 8:33 am

Thanks guys.

I shouldn't be worrying about it then, but the information was a great help :D
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Postby Jay Mallari » March 15th, 2011, 10:00 am

sarmadq wrote:Thanks guys.

I shouldn't be worrying about it then, but the information was a great help :D


There were unconfirmed reports some GI's used these canteens to connect it to a urinary catheter :lol: :lol: :lol:
Hope you have'nt been drinking from your canteen :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby rickf » March 15th, 2011, 11:35 am

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Canteen - Info required

Postby WC Matt » March 15th, 2011, 12:02 pm

Jay Mallari wrote:
sarmadq wrote:Thanks guys.

I shouldn't be worrying about it then, but the information was a great help :D


There were unconfirmed reports some GI's used these canteens to connect it to a urinary catheter :lol: :lol: :lol:
Hope you have'nt been drinking from your canteen :lol: :lol: :lol:


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I've never tried but, I think the valve in the cap only goes one way (outwards) so no real worries Sam :mrgreen:

My friend was the CO of an NBC unit and he told me about having to "requal" every year with all his gear. For NBC guys, this means putting all of your chem protective gear on and sitting in a gas chamber for 6 or 8 hours with "live" agent. It was kind of expected that you would wet yourself as there are no bathroom breaks.... :? :oops:

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Thanks for posting that image. I used to have the M17 & M17A1 masks w/hoods and carry bags (also had the manual) but I never got around to picking up the resus. tube. Sounds like you've got the whole kit.

While we're on the subject of chem/bio gear here's a little tidbit for all of you. They make an adapter for the camelbak hydration system so that it can be used in conjuntion with a gas mask. Although the camelbak is standard issue now adays it failed the test for use in a NBC invironment so the 'ol GI canteen (with the cap at the head of this post) is still standard issue.

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Re: Canteen - Info required

Postby sarmadq » March 16th, 2011, 12:24 am

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: you got me thinking Jay :lol: :lol:

Thanks Ken & Matt.

Good to see you back Ken.
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Postby WC Matt » March 16th, 2011, 2:23 pm

Your welcome, Sam.
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Re: Canteen - Info required

Postby muttguru » March 16th, 2011, 4:14 pm

Hello Sam,

happy to be of help. Hope everything is well with you :D
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Postby bazookajoe » March 16th, 2011, 9:39 pm

It's a spark arrestor, to avoid the possibility of explosion if you hit it against your fillings while drinking in an explosive atmosphere. Check T.M.320-112-wtf
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Re: Canteen - Info required

Postby Francis Marion » March 17th, 2011, 8:46 am

Back in the days before Camelbak I saw guys attach tubing to the connectors on these caps in conjunction with the 2 qt collapsible canteens.
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Re: Canteen - Info required

Postby WC Matt » March 18th, 2011, 6:32 am

Francis Marion wrote:Back in the days before Camelbak I saw guys attach tubing to the connectors on these caps in conjunction with the 2 qt collapsible canteens.


A friend of mine did that when he was in Panama back in the early 80s.
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