What you need for a mutt radio install

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Re: What you need for a mutt radio install

Postby steeltub1 » October 18th, 2012, 7:36 pm

Yes you guys are correct, I am like a kid with a new toy and cannot wait, I have contacted a few of the people that you have listed but have not found one yet, but I will slow down and hopefully find one in the near future, I am trying to get everything installed and dry fitted for paint in the very near future.

Thanks for all the information and if one comes available please let me know.
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Re: What you need for a mutt radio install

Postby Mark » October 18th, 2012, 8:48 pm

I might have one,I am not going to use it, so let me look
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Re: What you need for a mutt radio install

Postby SNOOPY » March 21st, 2013, 1:42 pm

Hi,

Do I need the INERCONNECTING BOX, J-3513A/U to connect my RT-524 and R-442?

Thanks!

moose53 wrote:Since the question seems to come up from time to time here is what you need for a mutt radio install...
This is a basic installation, not including voice scrambling or direction finding gear, or remote point operation.

1. Transceiver.
either a RT-524 (most common), an RT-246, or a PRC-25 or 77 portable w/amp unit.

2. Optional Aux. Receiver -
R-442

3. Mounting tray for each radio -
MT-1029/VRC for the transceiver and MT-1898/VRC for the Aux Receiver.

4. Sponson Plate -
Reinforces fender to take the weight of the radio
SC-DL-48676 for the MT-1029 mount
SC-DL-48682 for the MT-1898 mount

5. Antenna
either AS-1729/VRC or AT-912/VRC for the Tranceivers and AB-15/GR or AB-558/GR for the Aux Receiver.
The AS-1729/VRC Antenna consists of the MX-6707 base, AS-1730 lower whip section and the AT-1095 Upper whip section, a tip ball, and tiedown. It mounts on the 3 piece corner antenna mount (sugar scoop).
The AT-912/VRC antenna was an early version with a large rectangular matching unit. It consisted of MX-2799 matching unit, AS-719 Antenna Base, AT-1096 Lower whip section, AT-1095 upper whip section, Tip Ball, and Tiedown.
The AB-15/GR Antenna consisted of a AB-15 base (2 piece ball insulator), MS-116A, MS-117A, and MS-118A whip sections, UG-273 cable adapter, SC-DL-48528 side mount bracket, and SC-C-446109 brush guard. the AB-558/GR was for mounting on the sugar scoop bracket like the as-1729, and used the same whip sections as the AB-15.

6. Accessories
LS-454/U speaker -necessary for RT-246 and R-442, optional on RT-524
M-80/U Hand Microphone
H-189/GR or H-250/GR Handset (looks like telephone handset)
H-161/U Headset with microphone
H-140/U or H-251/U Headset w/o mic
C-2299/VRC Control box, power, audio, allows control of transceiver from dash.
C-2742/VRC - Control Box, channel selection for RT-246 only.

7. Cables
CX-4720 - Vehicle Batteries to MT-1029 Mount
CX-4721 - MT-1029 Mount to MT-1898 mount and/or MT-1898 Mount to MT-1898 Mount depending on installation
CX-4722 - Control cable from Transceiver to antenna matching unit.
CX-4723 - Control Box C-2299/VRC to Transceiver
CX-7059 - Control Box C-2742 to MT-1029 mount.
CG-1773 - Coax cable from transceiver or Aux receiver to antenna (all)

These are the parts needed for a basic radio installation There are additional items for secure comms and remote comms that I omitted since not too many people want to go that far.

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Re: What you need for a mutt radio install

Postby richard » March 21st, 2013, 5:21 pm

The TM 11-5820-401-10-1 says: Whenever a regular R-T mount (MT-1029/VRC) is modified to include interconnecting box J-3513/U it becomes a Vinson R-T mount.
Only Vinson Comsec equipment can be used in the radio system.


From my understanding, you can use the RT-524 and R-442 w/o the box as Jim (aka moose53) described it in detail above.
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Re: What you need for a mutt radio install

Postby SNOOPY » March 21st, 2013, 5:30 pm

Great!

Thanks,

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Re: What you need for a mutt radio install

Postby moose53 » March 21st, 2013, 8:32 pm

Richard is correct, the interface box J-3513/u was used to connect the TSEC/KY-57 Speech Scrambler to the RT-524 or RT-246. The only connection between the RT-524 and R-442 was a power cable between the radio mounts.

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Re: What you need for a mutt radio install

Postby richard » March 22nd, 2013, 4:27 am

Hello Pascal,

Here comes an additional diagram from the TM. Hope it helps. Do you have all the cables, correct antennas, mounts and sponsons as listed by Jim?

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Re: What you need for a mutt radio install

Postby SNOOPY » March 22nd, 2013, 11:47 am

Thanks Richard, this is great!
I have the radios, antennas, mounts, power cable, but not the antenna cables and connecting cables needed between the two stations...
Do you have access to those?
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Re: What you need for a mutt radio install

Postby richard » March 22nd, 2013, 5:50 pm

Hello Pascal,

Perhaps you should contact Michael Danziger in Germany. Here is a direct link to his Web shop's radio cable section. If you need any translation, because it is in German, please let me know.

http://www.reforger.de/de/60-us-funkgerate-kabel
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Re: What you need for a mutt radio install

Postby Doug Black » December 20th, 2014, 11:37 am

Here's my radio set up- RT 524 and R442. They are on loan from my neighbor who has a M151A2 (Yes, there are TWO MUTTs in my tiny neighborhood). All wiring and mounts were in my M151 when I bought it. I just took the whips out of the canvas bag, installed them, and plugged in the radios and everything worked great!

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Re: What you need for a mutt radio install

Postby rickf » December 20th, 2014, 11:44 am

Except you have the wrong antenna for the 442. That should have an AB-15 mount and the three section whip. The whip sections are the M0116, M-117, M-118. The AB-15 mount si mounted on the passenger side right behind the door opening or on the old style AB-15 mount such as mine it is on the drivers side rear corner but it is only as high as the body side.
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Re: What you need for a mutt radio install

Postby Doug Black » December 20th, 2014, 12:04 pm

I'm still shopping for the correct whip sections. They are always around $200.
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Re: What you need for a mutt radio install

Postby salt6 » December 21st, 2014, 12:04 am

Read the manual. What you can use also depends on what time frame you want to replicate.
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Re: What you need for a mutt radio install

Postby ndcctrucks » September 10th, 2016, 7:19 pm

Can someone please post or send to me dimensions for the corner-mount extension? It looks simple and shouldn't be hard to replicate.

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Re: What you need for a mutt radio install

Postby rickf » September 10th, 2016, 8:22 pm

Just the extension that is added to the main mount?
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