1965 M151A1 project
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Re: 1965 M151A1 project
Google "gas tank epoxy." Eastwood (the car products giant) promotes several products that should fill your needs.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
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Re: 1965 M151A1 project
As M3a1 said,you could probably get by with some gas tank repair epoxy on top.
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Re: 1965 M151A1 project
Small brass key tags and solid core solder will do the job on the small holes.
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1963 M151 Willys DoD 10-63 in Baltimore
1989 Alley Cat. "work in Progress"
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Re: 1965 M151A1 project
Thanks,
I am going to try some Sta Brite silver solder for the pinholes. After I weld up the tank I am going to seal it with the POR 15 tank sealer.
Things are on a bit of a hold though. Thursday and Friday brought severe storms and my 1 car garage totally flooded and there is a hole in the roof now. Luckily most of my tools are out at the farm and the ones in the garage fared well. Most of the parts I have for the Mutt were in plastic storage containers.
I guess the timeline for building my shop has moved up!
I am going to try some Sta Brite silver solder for the pinholes. After I weld up the tank I am going to seal it with the POR 15 tank sealer.
Things are on a bit of a hold though. Thursday and Friday brought severe storms and my 1 car garage totally flooded and there is a hole in the roof now. Luckily most of my tools are out at the farm and the ones in the garage fared well. Most of the parts I have for the Mutt were in plastic storage containers.
I guess the timeline for building my shop has moved up!
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Re: 1965 M151A1 project
Hate to here about the roof, we have had a couple close calls with tornadoes, I think you would be better off with a soft solder, silver solder melts at about 1200 deg. as compared to 350-450 deg with soft.
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Re: 1965 M151A1 project
Thanks,
The Stay Brite 8 is silver bearing solder but has a lower melting point.
I had some time to start welding the tank back together today. It went pretty well. I had to use .030 wire because I did not have any .024 tips I am going to get some tomorrow and proceed with the smaller wire. I also have to get some new batteries for my welding helmet.
I bought a low voltage test set and adapters that should be delivered tomorrow. I will post some pics
The Stay Brite 8 is silver bearing solder but has a lower melting point.
I had some time to start welding the tank back together today. It went pretty well. I had to use .030 wire because I did not have any .024 tips I am going to get some tomorrow and proceed with the smaller wire. I also have to get some new batteries for my welding helmet.
I bought a low voltage test set and adapters that should be delivered tomorrow. I will post some pics
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1965 M151A1
M151 A1 parts vehicle
1951 M37
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2003 M-Gator Sold
M100 Trailer Sold
M105A2 Trailer Sold
1965 M151A1
M151 A1 parts vehicle
1951 M37
2010 M-Gator A1 Sold
2003 M-Gator Sold
M100 Trailer Sold
M105A2 Trailer Sold
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Re: 1965 M151A1 project
Cleaned my helmet and put new batteries in it.
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M151 A1 parts vehicle
1951 M37
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2003 M-Gator Sold
M100 Trailer Sold
M105A2 Trailer Sold
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M151 A1 parts vehicle
1951 M37
2010 M-Gator A1 Sold
2003 M-Gator Sold
M100 Trailer Sold
M105A2 Trailer Sold
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Re: 1965 M151A1 project
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2003 M-Gator Sold
M100 Trailer Sold
M105A2 Trailer Sold
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1951 M37
2010 M-Gator A1 Sold
2003 M-Gator Sold
M100 Trailer Sold
M105A2 Trailer Sold
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Re: 1965 M151A1 project
Nice purchase on the tester, keep us posted on the reweld, I have a few gas tank bottom halves, I thought about separating one at the seam and try my hand at welding one back.
Re: 1965 M151A1 project
Hi I am interested to see how your tank welding works out as I plan to go down the same route. My tank was also full of crap rust etc.and a previous poor repair to the lower half of tank . I have just purchased a new Lower tank half which I will pick up when I am in LA in a few weeks time. Some photos of your progress would be great?
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1960 Seagrave LAFD Hook and Ladder Fire Truck
1953 M38A1 Jeep
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Re: 1965 M151A1 project
So far I have been surprised at how well it has been going. I picked up smaller contact tips so I can run .024 wire and I think that will make it easier. Prior to cutting my tank I soaked and rinsed with de- greaser twice. Then I filled the tank with water and used a battery powered sawzall to make the cut. I was very conscious of cutting/sparking on a fuel tank. I cut 2" below the seam weld. Removing the baffle was a bit of a pain but tin snips and a spot weld cutter did the trick. My lower half was solid and I did not want to spend the money on a new lower so I reused mine. If I was going to use a new lower it would have been easy to cut just below the seam and then grind the seam clean and weld up the new half.
I did look at new lower halfs and they did not have the drain bung installed, it said to re use your own. I did notice on mine that the drain bung was sealed with solder after it was pinned. Also I did not see a baffle. I contemplated not installing a baffle but decided that I should. I modified the baffle design to allow flow from the sides and a center section and added a gusset because I would not be able to weld it to the upper tank half.
I will take some pictures today.
I did look at new lower halfs and they did not have the drain bung installed, it said to re use your own. I did notice on mine that the drain bung was sealed with solder after it was pinned. Also I did not see a baffle. I contemplated not installing a baffle but decided that I should. I modified the baffle design to allow flow from the sides and a center section and added a gusset because I would not be able to weld it to the upper tank half.
I will take some pictures today.
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M105A2 Trailer Sold
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M151 A1 parts vehicle
1951 M37
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2003 M-Gator Sold
M100 Trailer Sold
M105A2 Trailer Sold
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Re: 1965 M151A1 project
So I have the majority of the tank welded up. I spoke too soon earlier and it ended up being a pain in the a**.
The welds would be fine until I hit a thin area then I would blow through. I had to build up some areas with booger welds then grind them down and run another series of welds. I tack welded the sides then I adjusted them with a body hammer to get the best line up possible. Because the weld line is below the mounting flange I am not too worried about panel distortion. I will clean it up and make the tank pretty though.
I am a fairly new welder so there has definitely been some trial and error. Using the Miller chart for .024 solid core wire and c25 gas I ended up backing off the heat and increasing the wire speed.
Prior to welding the tank it was de-greased and then media blasted
The welds would be fine until I hit a thin area then I would blow through. I had to build up some areas with booger welds then grind them down and run another series of welds. I tack welded the sides then I adjusted them with a body hammer to get the best line up possible. Because the weld line is below the mounting flange I am not too worried about panel distortion. I will clean it up and make the tank pretty though.
I am a fairly new welder so there has definitely been some trial and error. Using the Miller chart for .024 solid core wire and c25 gas I ended up backing off the heat and increasing the wire speed.
Prior to welding the tank it was de-greased and then media blasted
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2003 M-Gator Sold
M100 Trailer Sold
M105A2 Trailer Sold
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M151 A1 parts vehicle
1951 M37
2010 M-Gator A1 Sold
2003 M-Gator Sold
M100 Trailer Sold
M105A2 Trailer Sold
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Re: 1965 M151A1 project
Deleting photobucket pix and updating
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1965 M151A1
M151 A1 parts vehicle
1951 M37
2010 M-Gator A1 Sold
2003 M-Gator Sold
M100 Trailer Sold
M105A2 Trailer Sold
1965 M151A1
M151 A1 parts vehicle
1951 M37
2010 M-Gator A1 Sold
2003 M-Gator Sold
M100 Trailer Sold
M105A2 Trailer Sold
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Re: 1965 M151A1 project
I thought I would get blasted on my lack of welding skill for sure
I am going to try and finish the tank up this weekend and then seal it up
I am going to try and finish the tank up this weekend and then seal it up
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1965 M151A1
M151 A1 parts vehicle
1951 M37
2010 M-Gator A1 Sold
2003 M-Gator Sold
M100 Trailer Sold
M105A2 Trailer Sold
1965 M151A1
M151 A1 parts vehicle
1951 M37
2010 M-Gator A1 Sold
2003 M-Gator Sold
M100 Trailer Sold
M105A2 Trailer Sold
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Re: 1965 M151A1 project
As long as it doesn't leak you will be good to go, the weld seam is below the line of sight.