Civilian M-151 engine?

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Re: Civilian M-151 engine?

Unread post by m3a1 » November 3rd, 2017, 11:58 am

:shock: You have an engine collection? :shock:

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Re: Civilian M-151 engine?

Unread post by rickf » November 3rd, 2017, 1:35 pm

Everything from two cylinder diesels up to a 572 Big Block Chevy. probably 7-8 four bolt main 350's, I lost count. Turns out this 151 engine is junk. The guy screwed me big time. I specifically asked him to turn it over and he siad he rotated th crank three full revolutions. Well. I just pulled the head after I could only get a half turn each way. One cylinder is solid rust at the top. This thing never turned one revolution let alone three. Postimage is down right now but I will post pictures once it is back up along with this guys info. Watch out for him. He apparently does work with a museum that sells on consignment.
He even sent me his web page when I old him I was uneasy with postal money orders. Learned THAT lesson!!!!! I don't give a finless brown trout if you have a site, an address or a phone number, credit card or Paypal or it don't happen!

http://halftrackinfo.com/index.php?topic=1071.0
That address will take you to one of his sales.
I also have his name and address but I am not going to put that on an open forum and open myself up to the lawyers. If you want it I will be glad to pm it to you. He is in Illinois.
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Re: Civilian M-151 engine?

Unread post by rickf » November 3rd, 2017, 8:27 pm

Pulled the head and as I suspected the number three cylinder was rusted far too bad for that engine to ever have turned over!
Pressure washed all the grunge off of it and it is a nice color, I didn't get any pics of inside the bell housing but you might see a little of the dark green around the back of the engine behind the flywheel. Never saw that on the other engines. Also check out that oil filter, I don't think I have ever seen one of those.

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No clip holding the oil return line to the rocker.
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Note the oil return line not in the hole
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Don't recognize that brand, I have heard of Crown but never saw one.
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Re: Civilian M-151 engine?

Unread post by Surveyor » November 3rd, 2017, 9:41 pm

Looks better than what I started with!
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Re: Civilian M-151 engine?

Unread post by rickf » November 4th, 2017, 9:32 am

I got all the crap out of the cylinder and off the pistons and got it to turn. I have seen better looking cylinders but I am going to clean off that gasket and spray it with ultra copper and bolt it together and scrounge up a starter and see what happens. I am not really thinking it will run and if it does , probably smoke pretty bad. I also do not expect the head gasket to hold for all that long but I am not throwing any new parts on this thing right now. I am just waiting on parts to finish putting my car together and then get some promised carbs done. Then I will get back to this.
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Re: Civilian M-151 engine?

Unread post by Horst » November 4th, 2017, 4:59 pm

what casting date on the block?
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Re: Civilian M-151 engine?

Unread post by rickf » November 4th, 2017, 6:14 pm

Horst wrote:what casting date on the block?
Are you talking about the numbers by the flywheel under the oil pressure sender?
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Re: Civilian M-151 engine?

Unread post by Horst » November 5th, 2017, 3:44 am

the number above the part number shows typically a casting date. However in your case I cannot decipher the meaning. Engine color reminds me of Pontiac engine colors. Somebody build also the generator mounting bracket
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1962 M201 and trailer
1966 GTO,1982 E350 Skoolie, 1987 SJ413, 1987 911
Gone: 2xM35A2c, Unimog 404S, Hanomag AL28, DKW Munga

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Re: Civilian M-151 engine?

Unread post by rickf » November 5th, 2017, 9:46 am

This is the third engine I got in this color, one was in my 151 when I got it and the other came from a 61. This one had a Holley on it so I know it is an early one. I will try to get a picture of the inside of the bell housing today, it is a dark green. It is also a very early bell housing with the starter release hole.
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Re: Civilian M-151 engine?

Unread post by Horst » November 5th, 2017, 10:00 am

so what does the casting date say? I looked at my 151 earlier today and it shows a full date with day/month/year
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1962 M201 and trailer
1966 GTO,1982 E350 Skoolie, 1987 SJ413, 1987 911
Gone: 2xM35A2c, Unimog 404S, Hanomag AL28, DKW Munga

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Re: Civilian M-151 engine?

Unread post by rickf » November 5th, 2017, 10:23 am

You tell me. I'll have you know I went out in the wet dreary morning cold just to take these pictures. I am sure you feel sorry for me. :roll: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Civilian M-151 engine?

Unread post by JeepMagician » November 17th, 2017, 12:14 am

Those look like VW Beetle Spark plug plugs/seals on the ends of the wires. There were used to keep air from escaping the holes in the cooling tin for the sparkplugs.

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Re: Civilian M-151 engine?

Unread post by rickf » November 17th, 2017, 9:25 am

Yep, sure do. Take the ends off the plug and you could probably use the whole VW plug wire end.
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Re: Civilian M-151 engine?

Unread post by acudanut » December 8th, 2017, 3:30 pm

I take it you can't use a civilian spark plug with that Distributor ?
I hope you didn't get screwed too bad on that engine.

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Re: Civilian M-151 engine?

Unread post by Surveyor » December 8th, 2017, 3:38 pm

There was an adapter set made by the military to do just that. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8413
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