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Re: Marine Corp markings?

Unread post by muttguru » June 3rd, 2009, 7:02 pm

Bill, Idaho wrote:I want the markings to reflect USMC, mid to late 70's, with a unit that would have utilized 4 color desert. Since this MUTT didn't appear to have any specific use, ie: TOW, communications, recoiless, etc, I would think that would assist in giving it a units designation.
Bill,

there were two x 4-color desert patterns (red desert and gray desert). You can see the approximate appearance of each of these at:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/muttpage/page122.html

Whichever pattern you have used, the rest is pretty straightforward.

1. In 2" letters at either side of hood is the USMC designation along with the serial number. As yours is an A2, the S/N most likely would have 6 numbers beginning with 5, as in 501234, so the hood would say...."USMC 501234".

2. The rear driver-side bumperette would have the 2" letters "USMC" and the passenger-side bumperette would have the 2" numbers "501234".

3. The front bumper carried neither USMC nor the serial number.

4. There were NO markings such as "HQ" or "HW" or similar unit designators.

5. Instead, there may have been a symbol (diamond, circle, half-circle, lozenge etc) with a number inside it...eg <353> which would have been the embarkation loading code number.

6. The USMC, S/N, symbol and code would have been in matt black.

7. The "DO NOT OVERFILL..." markings would have been 1", matt black letters.

8. TP 20 or TP-20 in 1" matt black letters & numbers centred over each wheel.

9. The markings above would most likely have been stencilled, but adhesive letters and numbers were authorized for use.

10 Appropriate manuals were MCO P4750-3B 3 Jan 1977 and NAVMC2666 3 Jan 1977.

Hope this helps........
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Re: Marine Corp markings?

Unread post by Jetnoise400 » June 3rd, 2009, 7:11 pm

So if I understand correctly what you've said there Ken, then is the A2 in the USMC green in the photos posted previously marked incorrectly? Or is there an older marking spec for the solid color vehicles?
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Re: Marine Corp markings?

Unread post by muttguru » June 4th, 2009, 4:30 am

Jetnoise400 wrote:So if I understand correctly what you've said there Ken, then is the A2 in the USMC green in the photos posted previously marked incorrectly? Or is there an older marking spec for the solid color vehicles?

Sean,
you mean the semi-glossy A2 with the yellow letters? Well, everyone has the right to paint his/her vehicle as they wish, so I don't really want to comment on the markings. However, you are correct about there being an older marking spec for non-cammo vehicles.

It's laid down in MCO P4750.3 dated 1 Oct 1962 w/changes 1, 2 & 3.

Hope this helps.......
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Re: Marine Corp markings?

Unread post by Jetnoise400 » June 4th, 2009, 1:35 pm

muttguru wrote: Sean,
you mean the semi-glossy A2 with the yellow letters? Well, everyone has the right to paint his/her vehicle as they wish, so I don't really want to comment on the markings. However, you are correct about there being an older marking spec for non-cammo vehicles.

It's laid down in MCO P4750.3 dated 1 Oct 1962 w/changes 1, 2 & 3.

Hope this helps.......
That does indeed help Ken, thanks much. Now, to find that manual... :?
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Re: Marine Corp markings?

Unread post by muttguru » June 4th, 2009, 3:18 pm

Jetnoise400 wrote:That does indeed help Ken, thanks much. Now, to find that manual... :?
Hello again Sean,

Good luck in the search for this TM. Even the USMC at Quantico don't have a copy. Not operationally relevant, they say!

I've tried for years to locate a copy of the USMC 3-color painting instructions. (the current painting scheme)........
TM 4750-OD/1A Painting and Registration Marking for Marine Corps Combat and Tactical Equipment: November 2004 along with:-
TM 4750-OD/2 Camouflage Paint Patterns: November 2005

They are available in hard copy (a huge book) but also available on CD, too. But no-one will admit to owning them, never mind making a copy for me!!

If you find 'em on your travels, please let me know......
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Re: Marine Corp markings?

Unread post by Husker » August 27th, 2016, 10:48 am

I know this is a very old post but I just got a marine jeep with markings matching those picture in the eBay post

Could it be the same Jeep just heavily degraded or were the numbers copied from this jeep?
I have the same hood markings 583 marks and everything else along with the holes for the fording kit
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Re: Marine Corp markings?

Unread post by Husker » August 27th, 2016, 11:04 am

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Re: Marine Corp markings?

Unread post by muttguru » August 27th, 2016, 1:37 pm

Husker,
lift the hood, then look for the little plate on the firewall. Check the number which follows the word BUDD and let me know what it says. If it's the original vehicle that I knew, I'll confirm it.
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Re: Marine Corp markings?

Unread post by Husker » August 28th, 2016, 12:37 pm

Buds SN 57222
Ord 8754459

Thanks Ken!
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Re: Marine Corp markings?

Unread post by muttguru » August 28th, 2016, 4:34 pm

Husker wrote:Buds SN 57222
Ord 8754459 Thanks Ken!
Yes, it's the same one. And here's the dataplate to verify it.

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Re: Marine Corp markings?

Unread post by rickf » August 28th, 2016, 6:13 pm

So that was Bills old 151? I was not even aware he sold it.

My mistake, I went back over the post and swa that it was an E-Bay sale that someone posted. Sorry Bill. :roll: :oops:
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Re: Marine Corp markings?

Unread post by Husker » August 28th, 2016, 6:15 pm

Wish I still had the data plate!

It has had a sad rough life since 2009 when those photos were taken I will have to replace pretty much everything I paid 900 for it most of the body is rust and most of the parts are corroded and rotten
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Re: Marine Corp markings?

Unread post by muttguru » August 29th, 2016, 5:55 am

Husker,
that's a shame. It looked reasonably good when John R sent me a photo of it back in 2001.
ken

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Re: Marine Corp markings?

Unread post by Husker » August 29th, 2016, 7:52 pm

It is a shame
I wonder how it got to southern ga and how it ended up like this.

Sadly I won't remain USMC while I love originality I'm in the army and I will look really weird driving a marine jeep
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Re: Marine Corp markings?

Unread post by fergrn37 » August 29th, 2016, 9:33 pm

Oh keep it Marine. Or can't you take the heat?
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