Tire Question
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Tire Question
Since I am going to make me mutt a driver, hopefully taking her out about once a week, and have a spare set of wheels, I am thinking of putting a set of road tires on the Mutt. Question, I looked on the Wiki and found the radial size equivalent, but will the mutt wheels accept a tubless tire, tubless with a tube, or does the tire need to be a tube tire? Those military tires are pretty expensive, don't want to waste them on everyday hardsurface driving.
1976 M151A2 4 Color Cammo Mutt, aquired August 09
1976 or 7? M151A2 "Miss Sandy" Driver, aquired May 2010
Former owner M151A2 "Miss Saigon" Vietnam Rescue Sold Sept 09
Fond appreciation for the M151 Breed!!
1976 or 7? M151A2 "Miss Sandy" Driver, aquired May 2010
Former owner M151A2 "Miss Saigon" Vietnam Rescue Sold Sept 09
Fond appreciation for the M151 Breed!!
Re: Tire Question
Good thread csmith. I want to do the same, but I think I'll put tubes in as the "extra" set of rims are rather pitted.
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Re: Tire Question
I have tubeless radials with no leaks but have heard that they can leak around the welds.
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I have heard of others like Raymond that run tubeless with no problem. I would paint the inside of the rim over the rivets with a good epoxy paint and then go with the tubeless and see if they leak. If they do then just get a set of radial tubes for them. I am guessing they will not leak.
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Re: Tire Question
rickf mentioned to me that if you put epoxy paint on the inside of the rims, they should work for tubeless.
I have an extra set of rims on the way and am thinking of going with civie tires.
edit, sorry rick- we were posting at the same time
I have an extra set of rims on the way and am thinking of going with civie tires.
edit, sorry rick- we were posting at the same time
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Re: Tire Question
Thanks for the input guys. Two of my extra wheels are NOS still in the box, the other 4 are TO's off the mutt before the last owner put 4 new wheels and tires on and three are in excellent shape. I'll talk to the tire store and get their input also. For the cost of good epoxy paint and the time/effort to paint the inside of the wheels maybe $7-8 per tube is well spent as insurance against a flat. I'll keep everyone posted on how I proceed but it will likely be a month or two before get it done. Any recommendation as to what brand/style tire to go with
Raymond, how long have you been running your tubless?
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Raymond, how long have you been running your tubless?
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1976 M151A2 4 Color Cammo Mutt, aquired August 09
1976 or 7? M151A2 "Miss Sandy" Driver, aquired May 2010
Former owner M151A2 "Miss Saigon" Vietnam Rescue Sold Sept 09
Fond appreciation for the M151 Breed!!
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Former owner M151A2 "Miss Saigon" Vietnam Rescue Sold Sept 09
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Would the epoxy be to hard a break as the wheel flexes? silicone? HTN
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Guys,
I use a full set of Michelin tubeless radials in addition to a set of NDCC treads that I switch on and off for parades, etc. and the radials have never leaked air in the 10 years that I have been using them. The ride is much better with the radials, too!
Joe
I use a full set of Michelin tubeless radials in addition to a set of NDCC treads that I switch on and off for parades, etc. and the radials have never leaked air in the 10 years that I have been using them. The ride is much better with the radials, too!
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Joe, what size michelins do you use on your mutt? I assume that they are on the military wheels.
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Since December 1997. Only one flat sine then, and it was a bad valve stem.csmith wrote:
Raymond, how long have you been running your tubless?
Raymond
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Clell,
I use Yokohama Geolander HT/S in my truck, a very nice tire for the road, quiet and light as a feather, good grip but expensive I also want another set of wheels for the mutt but can't get the right size for this particular tire here.
Here is a video link
http://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/geola ... video.aspx
I use Yokohama Geolander HT/S in my truck, a very nice tire for the road, quiet and light as a feather, good grip but expensive I also want another set of wheels for the mutt but can't get the right size for this particular tire here.
Here is a video link
http://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/geola ... video.aspx
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Re: Tire Question
The size is LT225 75 R16 (Michelin LTX M/S tires). The wheels are stock M151A2 and the tread width of these tires is just under 7 inches. When compared to the NDCC's, that's a lot of rubber meeting the road.ltsimp wrote:Joe, what size michelins do you use on your mutt? I assume that they are on the military wheels.
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This is exactly what I was planning to do. Glad to hear the sucess stories and thanks for the tip on tire size.Joe wrote:I use a full set of Michelin tubeless radials in addition to a set of NDCC treads that I switch on and off for parades, etc.
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Well from all the success mentioned I think I'm going tubless! Great input from all.
1976 M151A2 4 Color Cammo Mutt, aquired August 09
1976 or 7? M151A2 "Miss Sandy" Driver, aquired May 2010
Former owner M151A2 "Miss Saigon" Vietnam Rescue Sold Sept 09
Fond appreciation for the M151 Breed!!
1976 or 7? M151A2 "Miss Sandy" Driver, aquired May 2010
Former owner M151A2 "Miss Saigon" Vietnam Rescue Sold Sept 09
Fond appreciation for the M151 Breed!!
Re: Tire Question
215-85-16 is the replacemant for the 7.00x16 NDCC tires. 235-85-16 is the equivelant 7.50x16 tire.
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