Restoring my 74 M151A2 CDN...
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Restoring my 74 M151A2 CDN...
And so it begins....
After searching around I finally found a project.
A bit of background about me. I started my Jeep addiction in 1993 with the unexpected purchase of a 1976 CJ-5. After having that one die in an unplanned parking brake failure and subsequent roll down a very steep driveway while I was in the house, I bought a 67 M38A1 CDN2. I fixed up and drove that for a couple of years until having to sell it when I joined the military. Still having the Jeep bug, I bought a 97 Jeep TJ and tried something new and slowly turned it into a Rockcrawler. After 10 years I started to get bored of it and was hurting inside everytime I passed something in OD. So I started hunting for an MV project. My reason for choosing to build a MUTT is that there are so very few of them to be found here in Canada as most were not only cut, but crushed, and I wanted something unique and rare.
After hunting around both north and south of the Border, I settled on not one, but two 74 M151A2's, both here in Canada. Luckily for me although they are both cut, they were the early demils that consisted of a single straight and relatively clean cut.
The one is 98% complete as issued, has been re-welded, and has most of the NOS parts to complete it, Engine runs strong and the Driveline is solid. Only downside is that the original floor is pretty much gone and the back corners are also very rough.
The other is fairly complete and has a very good body albeit is also re-welded, with very minimal rust. The Engine and Driveline is complete, but it isn't currently running. There were also a few "booty" mods to get it running that defeated the original setup.
Between the two A2's there is a pretty large amount of NOS and used spare parts not to mention the duplication of parts between both vehicles, such as 2 engines, trannys etc etc.
Total invested including the transportation of both to my location, totaling 5500kms, is approx 6K CAD.
So the plan is really simple. For the restoration, I am going to strip the solid bodied A2 and stockpile the parts, completely clean and finish the tub, and then swap over the parts from the other complete runner A2. After that, its new paint and whatever else is required. Sounds pretty simple
Fortunately this great forum is around, so I can learn from you guys and pass along my experiences as well.
So, now some pics of the complete one:
After searching around I finally found a project.
A bit of background about me. I started my Jeep addiction in 1993 with the unexpected purchase of a 1976 CJ-5. After having that one die in an unplanned parking brake failure and subsequent roll down a very steep driveway while I was in the house, I bought a 67 M38A1 CDN2. I fixed up and drove that for a couple of years until having to sell it when I joined the military. Still having the Jeep bug, I bought a 97 Jeep TJ and tried something new and slowly turned it into a Rockcrawler. After 10 years I started to get bored of it and was hurting inside everytime I passed something in OD. So I started hunting for an MV project. My reason for choosing to build a MUTT is that there are so very few of them to be found here in Canada as most were not only cut, but crushed, and I wanted something unique and rare.
After hunting around both north and south of the Border, I settled on not one, but two 74 M151A2's, both here in Canada. Luckily for me although they are both cut, they were the early demils that consisted of a single straight and relatively clean cut.
The one is 98% complete as issued, has been re-welded, and has most of the NOS parts to complete it, Engine runs strong and the Driveline is solid. Only downside is that the original floor is pretty much gone and the back corners are also very rough.
The other is fairly complete and has a very good body albeit is also re-welded, with very minimal rust. The Engine and Driveline is complete, but it isn't currently running. There were also a few "booty" mods to get it running that defeated the original setup.
Between the two A2's there is a pretty large amount of NOS and used spare parts not to mention the duplication of parts between both vehicles, such as 2 engines, trannys etc etc.
Total invested including the transportation of both to my location, totaling 5500kms, is approx 6K CAD.
So the plan is really simple. For the restoration, I am going to strip the solid bodied A2 and stockpile the parts, completely clean and finish the tub, and then swap over the parts from the other complete runner A2. After that, its new paint and whatever else is required. Sounds pretty simple
Fortunately this great forum is around, so I can learn from you guys and pass along my experiences as well.
So, now some pics of the complete one:
Scott Bentley
M151A2 CDN, SN 43813, CFR 74-09195
Gone but never forgotten: Sgt Shane Stachnik, Killed in Action on 3 Sept 2006, Panjwaii, Afghanistan
M151A2 CDN, SN 43813, CFR 74-09195
Gone but never forgotten: Sgt Shane Stachnik, Killed in Action on 3 Sept 2006, Panjwaii, Afghanistan
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Re: Restoring my 74 M151A2 CDN...
Very nice finds indeed. You should have fun tinkering with these. Gotta love that "furnace filter" looking grill on the donor.
Later dayz,
TrueXena
1966 M151A1 - Daily Driver
1964 M151A1 - Restoring
1977 M151A2 - Restoring
1978 M416
1952 M37 - Restoring
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1966 M151A1 - Daily Driver
1964 M151A1 - Restoring
1977 M151A2 - Restoring
1978 M416
1952 M37 - Restoring
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Re: Restoring my 74 M151A2 CDN...
Nice looking trucks....
One question....why do you guys up north mount your spair tires backwards like that. Here in the states we would turn the tire around so it was dished in. Is the spare tire holder different up there?
One question....why do you guys up north mount your spair tires backwards like that. Here in the states we would turn the tire around so it was dished in. Is the spare tire holder different up there?
There is one nut on a M151 that is very difficult to remove.....
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Re: Restoring my 74 M151A2 CDN...
The "Furnace Filter" is a Canadian mod from what I understand. Most of the ones i've seen up here have them. Although the one on the top one looks like a repro or locally produced "Filter" The Tub donor rig has a correct original.
Dunno about the spare tire mount. As far as I know they are the same as the US MUTTs. Hmm...
Dunno about the spare tire mount. As far as I know they are the same as the US MUTTs. Hmm...
Scott Bentley
M151A2 CDN, SN 43813, CFR 74-09195
Gone but never forgotten: Sgt Shane Stachnik, Killed in Action on 3 Sept 2006, Panjwaii, Afghanistan
M151A2 CDN, SN 43813, CFR 74-09195
Gone but never forgotten: Sgt Shane Stachnik, Killed in Action on 3 Sept 2006, Panjwaii, Afghanistan
Re: Restoring my 74 M151A2 CDN...
Great find. I'm sure you will get years of enjoyment out of these.
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Oh, well I didn't know it was standard practice up there in the frozen north. Probably has something to do with the really cold weather you are prone to get. Maybe you could invest in one of those winterization covers for the grill instead of the filter looking thing.
Later dayz,
TrueXena
1966 M151A1 - Daily Driver
1964 M151A1 - Restoring
1977 M151A2 - Restoring
1978 M416
1952 M37 - Restoring
TrueXena
1966 M151A1 - Daily Driver
1964 M151A1 - Restoring
1977 M151A2 - Restoring
1978 M416
1952 M37 - Restoring
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Re: Restoring my 74 M151A2 CDN...
I just looked through all of my photos of Canadian MUTTs and they all have the spare tire mounted exactly like the photo in the first post. Who knows, maybe there is some kind of difference between the two. Because its a resto to in Canadian in service specs, the backwards tire and filter will most likey stay like they arek8icu wrote:Nice looking trucks....
One question....why do you guys up north mount your spair tires backwards like that. Here in the states we would turn the tire around so it was dished in. Is the spare tire holder different up there?
Scott Bentley
M151A2 CDN, SN 43813, CFR 74-09195
Gone but never forgotten: Sgt Shane Stachnik, Killed in Action on 3 Sept 2006, Panjwaii, Afghanistan
M151A2 CDN, SN 43813, CFR 74-09195
Gone but never forgotten: Sgt Shane Stachnik, Killed in Action on 3 Sept 2006, Panjwaii, Afghanistan
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Re: Restoring my 74 M151A2 CDN...
I suspect the grill was to keep branches from going through the radiator.
Raymond
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Did either have ROPS? Are you planning on putting ROPS on? The Canadian ROPS is pretty nice. It is a lot less damaging to the vehicle than the American version. Is this going to be a driver?
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Actually both come with the Cdn ROPS kits. One is not installed. I may end up swapping it with someone for parts once I know what I needSpike wrote:Did either have ROPS? Are you planning on putting ROPS on? The Canadian ROPS is pretty nice. It is a lot less damaging to the vehicle than the American version. Is this going to be a driver?
Yes, its going to become a sunny weekend icecream runner. I'm actually gonna get it running and plated prior to restoring it and get a few weekends out of it before the fall.
Scotty
Scott Bentley
M151A2 CDN, SN 43813, CFR 74-09195
Gone but never forgotten: Sgt Shane Stachnik, Killed in Action on 3 Sept 2006, Panjwaii, Afghanistan
M151A2 CDN, SN 43813, CFR 74-09195
Gone but never forgotten: Sgt Shane Stachnik, Killed in Action on 3 Sept 2006, Panjwaii, Afghanistan
Re: Restoring my 74 M151A2 CDN...
One things for sure with the spare tire mounted in such a manner it will be easier to check the air pressure.
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Zigzag50, Northeast51, KC2QDZ
MVPA # 30032 G838.org
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1971 G838-M151A2 1966 G857-M416
1968 G748-M101A1 1976 G748-M116A1
1990 MEP-701A
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Real jeeps have horizontal grille slots
MVPA # 30032 G838.org
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1971 G838-M151A2 1966 G857-M416
1968 G748-M101A1 1976 G748-M116A1
1990 MEP-701A
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Real jeeps have horizontal grille slots
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Re: Restoring my 74 M151A2 CDN...
Well, the Donor A2 started its 4000km journey to my place today...
I was looking at pictures of your Canadian A2... Was using it as one of a few guides for paint and accessories. No one can accuse you of doing it half-ass, considering there is a Melmac Cup hanging in it. That is about as authentic as you can get for Canadian Kit from the timeframe
I was looking at pictures of your Canadian A2... Was using it as one of a few guides for paint and accessories. No one can accuse you of doing it half-ass, considering there is a Melmac Cup hanging in it. That is about as authentic as you can get for Canadian Kit from the timeframe
Scott Bentley
M151A2 CDN, SN 43813, CFR 74-09195
Gone but never forgotten: Sgt Shane Stachnik, Killed in Action on 3 Sept 2006, Panjwaii, Afghanistan
M151A2 CDN, SN 43813, CFR 74-09195
Gone but never forgotten: Sgt Shane Stachnik, Killed in Action on 3 Sept 2006, Panjwaii, Afghanistan
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Re: Restoring my 74 M151A2 CDN...
I found a shop willing to do the following:
Sandblast the entire Jeep Tub including the Hood, Grill, Suspension, both inside and out, as well as underneath to level SP-6 (Powerpack, Wiring, Lights, etc, removed prior to drop off of course),
Touch up and completely smooth (aka Hide) the Demil repair,
Weld in some new material to repair rust damage along seam just above the Pintle and Hook Plate,
Spray the complete Jeep with 2 coats of Red Oxide Primer followed by a coat of Lusterless OD (I must provide the OD paint).
All I have to do is drop off the rolling chassis and a couple of Gallons of OD on a Monday morning, and pick it up on a Friday afternoon.
$1500 CAD
What do you guys think? Seem like a reasonable price?
Sandblast the entire Jeep Tub including the Hood, Grill, Suspension, both inside and out, as well as underneath to level SP-6 (Powerpack, Wiring, Lights, etc, removed prior to drop off of course),
Touch up and completely smooth (aka Hide) the Demil repair,
Weld in some new material to repair rust damage along seam just above the Pintle and Hook Plate,
Spray the complete Jeep with 2 coats of Red Oxide Primer followed by a coat of Lusterless OD (I must provide the OD paint).
All I have to do is drop off the rolling chassis and a couple of Gallons of OD on a Monday morning, and pick it up on a Friday afternoon.
$1500 CAD
What do you guys think? Seem like a reasonable price?