Found on CL or FB - (Not Mine) 2021 2022 2023
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Re: Found on CL or FB - (Not Mine) 2021
It was heavy
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1968 m274A5
1960 m151
1981 m151A2
1964 m416
1971 m416
1968 m274A5
1960 m151
1981 m151A2
1964 m416
1971 m416
Re: Found on CL or FB - (Not Mine) 2021
You've got to factor in the distance between the hitch and the axle(s) too. Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world. - Archimedesrickf wrote: ↑May 5th, 2021, 8:49 pmThe tongue on a 416 is not exactly light even unloaded but it all depends on how you load it. I pulled one with 144 20mm ammo cans 650 miles, half of which was in a snowstorm and the other half at 65 MPH with no issues at all. Same with my 116 trailers but they all have positive tongue weight. The video that Horst put up is a bit drastic on the ratio, 60% of a 5,000 lb. trailer load would be 3,000 lb. tongue weight!!!! Better have a class 5 hitch and a strong truck and frame. 10-15% is the accepted figures.
Reading those figures on that video again they say 60% of the load should be up front. Really it should say 60% of the load should be forward of the axles. A 60/40 split would give you closer to 20% on the tongue but that is acceptable as long as the hitch as vehicle are set up to handle the weight.
Obviously, we are discussing trailers with tongues that are notoriously short being towed by vehicles that are notoriously ill-mannered...
Let us consider the wisdom illustrated by our friend, the Chameleon. Tongue length matters! (a lot) and it is best when it is not too long, not too short but instead, is just right.
Going into the business of what type of suspension a trailer has can be a bit of a deep dive but that matters as well,
along with brakes (assuming they actually work),
and type of coupling,
and the towing vehicle,
and the idea that the driver of said vehicle has the ability to apply conditional critical reasoning skills...
(example: If I do THIS, I WILL die -or- If I don't do THIS, I WILL die.)
The biggest factor is having an operator with a good head on his shoulders.
Unfortunately, DMV continues to issue driver's licenses to some of the more dull-witted among us; a belief which seems to be predicated upon the idea that IF the driver's license applicant is actually (a) Homosapien and (b) appears to possess a level of awareness similar or better than that of a turnip, they're probably going to be OK behind the wheel of a motor vehicle (with, or without a trailer). Alas, the moment we allow for the use of the word 'apparently' and 'probably' that concept falls just short canonical thinking.
I'm quite sure you couldn't even get Vegas odds on the matter and they take bets on some spectacularly weird stuff...but, the DMV would have us believe they have it all worked out.
GO AHEAD, they said. YOU'LL BE FINE, they said.
When it came to the matter of load placement, it often seemed to be solely in relation to the available space for a load and that kind of thinking is predicated on the belief that any load can be safely put on any trailer...just as long as it fits...which is simply not true. In post crash investigation, that often seemed to be the upper limit of people's thought process.
The truth is tongue length and brain size are equally important when it comes to towing... It's not just how big it is...it's ALSO what you do with it!
Cheers,
TJ
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Re: Found on CL or FB - (Not Mine) 2021
Early M151 with mix of later parts in Texas - $9000
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... 8468341910
A2 Project in Texas $9000
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... 8334196283
A2 Project in Florida $6000
https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/atq ... 59409.html
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... 8468341910
A2 Project in Texas $9000
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... 8334196283
A2 Project in Florida $6000
https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/atq ... 59409.html
1960 M151 Run #1
"There is one nut on a M151 that is very difficult to remove....." - K8icu
"She ain't a Cadillac and she ain't a Rolls, But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio" - Aaron Tippin
"There is one nut on a M151 that is very difficult to remove....." - K8icu
"She ain't a Cadillac and she ain't a Rolls, But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio" - Aaron Tippin
Re: Found on CL or FB - (Not Mine) 2021
Brown jeep. red gas tank. No rear back section.... hmmm
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Re: Found on CL or FB - (Not Mine) 2021
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1960 M151 Run 1
1963 M151 Willys DoD 10-63 in Baltimore
1989 Alley Cat. "work in Progress"
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American Legion Post 275 Fl
US Army 6 years 2nd Armored Cavalry Bindlach Germany
Colorado Army Nat. Guard 5 years
Md Air Guard 15 years active duty on C-130's
1963 M151 Willys DoD 10-63 in Baltimore
1989 Alley Cat. "work in Progress"
NRA Life Member
American Legion Post 275 Fl
US Army 6 years 2nd Armored Cavalry Bindlach Germany
Colorado Army Nat. Guard 5 years
Md Air Guard 15 years active duty on C-130's
Re: Found on CL or FB - (Not Mine) 2021
Mr. R, I'm thinking that 1st pic may be an early. Looks like single horn hood latch and "clean" front fender.
1960 M151 Run #1
"There is one nut on a M151 that is very difficult to remove....." - K8icu
"She ain't a Cadillac and she ain't a Rolls, But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio" - Aaron Tippin
"There is one nut on a M151 that is very difficult to remove....." - K8icu
"She ain't a Cadillac and she ain't a Rolls, But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio" - Aaron Tippin
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Re: Found on CL or FB - (Not Mine) 2021
Can't really tell from the 1 photo, looks like it is unlatched, could just be turned sideways?
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1960 M151 Run 1
1963 M151 Willys DoD 10-63 in Baltimore
1989 Alley Cat. "work in Progress"
NRA Life Member
American Legion Post 275 Fl
US Army 6 years 2nd Armored Cavalry Bindlach Germany
Colorado Army Nat. Guard 5 years
Md Air Guard 15 years active duty on C-130's
1963 M151 Willys DoD 10-63 in Baltimore
1989 Alley Cat. "work in Progress"
NRA Life Member
American Legion Post 275 Fl
US Army 6 years 2nd Armored Cavalry Bindlach Germany
Colorado Army Nat. Guard 5 years
Md Air Guard 15 years active duty on C-130's
Re: Found on CL or FB - (Not Mine) 2021
I see a 416 trailer but no 714.
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
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Re: Found on CL or FB - (Not Mine) 2021
Just found this ENCORE Here in Florida. NOT MINE!!!
https://spacecoast.craigslist.org/atq/d ... 41989.html
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Re: Found on CL or FB - (Not Mine) 2021
And you are not buying it?!
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
Re: Found on CL or FB - (Not Mine) 2021
You need a warehouse.
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
Re: Found on CL or FB - (Not Mine) 2021
Two posts from a FB M151 page, fresh this morning:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/9687625 ... 2365718118
https://www.facebook.com/groups/9687625 ... 469104441/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/9687625 ... 2365718118
https://www.facebook.com/groups/9687625 ... 469104441/
Jim Peterson
SGM, 31B Retired 2015
1961 M151 -Sold
1974 M151A2, Working It!
SGM, 31B Retired 2015
1961 M151 -Sold
1974 M151A2, Working It!
Re: Found on CL or FB - (Not Mine) 2021
m75,
Don't do FB, got pics w/out having to join?
Don't do FB, got pics w/out having to join?
Some people are too busy knowing it all to ever learn anything
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Re: Found on CL or FB - (Not Mine) 2021
"If a sign of certain victory were needed, this is it, the Jeeps have arrived."
- Robert Sherrod, Time correspondent
1969 Ford M151A1 ex MRC108 Forward Air Control
1965 Ford M151A1 ex Civil Air Patrol
197? AM General M151A2
1954 GMC M211
1953 GMC M220
1967 Jeep M725
- Robert Sherrod, Time correspondent
1969 Ford M151A1 ex MRC108 Forward Air Control
1965 Ford M151A1 ex Civil Air Patrol
197? AM General M151A2
1954 GMC M211
1953 GMC M220
1967 Jeep M725