Mahindra Roxor

[m3a1]

Your video is private. (and what a cheap excuse that is ) Therefore, I don't believe you.

Har dee har-har

[rickf]

First attempt at you tube, Will have to redo it so then you might believe me.

[rickf]

You should be able to see it now.

[csmith]

They have been around for about four years now in the small Jeep style format. Raised quite a stink with Jeep when they hit our shores.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MURw4Gc2siU

Just looked at this video, thank looks just like a CJ5, they should have known they would get caught for that. Wonder what that cost Mahindra....??

[m3a1]

I think Mahindra has the license to produce but putting their product up against U.S. marketed Jeeps is indeed going to be a problem. Along with having a product which hasn't checked all the boxes in order to be deemed roadworthy.

[m3a1]

I am merely in the opening stages of trying to point out, with the money it would cost to acquire a side-by-side, he could restore to usefulness that old Jeep he claims to have sitting around there somewhere.

And, don't bother the cops. They're already here, having coffee.

You mean this old jeep? It does look a little better than this now, this was before pressure washing a couple years ago. Also has hard top and doors now.
https://youtu.be/ktT5QeZ9VHQ

It's pre-disasterized!

[D Pizzoferrato]

The Roxor, as I mentioned before, is the exact same vehicle as the Mahindra Thar, which is sold around the world, but not here. The Thar is built as a highway and off road vehicle. It has the same body style and size as a CJ7 or Jeep YJ Wrangler. Mahindra has been licensed by Jeep, going back to the Willys days, to build Jeep clones in India. The Roxor shares the same sturdy boxed frame, suspension, driveline and diesel engine as the Thar, although it has been detuned to keep it at whatever a respectable SxS top speed is. It is not intended to be a highway vehicle in the US. Interestingly enough, if one were to remove the rear taillight housings, they would find that the Thar wiring harness was used, so turn signals are a simple add on plug and play. There are already aftermarket companies in the US that offer all of the necessary upgrades (including an engine tuning chip) to make the Roxor road legal, if your state allows it. Yes Matilda, there are many (mostly western states) that will reigister SxSs for highway use.

When these first hit the market (they are assembled in Rochester MI), they were around $14K. I believe the after the lawsuit version is pushing $20K.

There is plenty of lawsuit info and appeals info on the internet. When Mahindra showed documentation from the Chrysler licensing, giving them permission to use the distinctive grill, the courts then ruled that the boxy bodystyle was too Jeep distinctive. It's all interesting reading.

Why do I know all of this you ask? I was very keen on purchasing one of these when they first hit the market. I was aware that a lawsuit was pending. At the time, my oldest daughter was working as a proofreader editor for an outsource company who happened to have a particular client that was an international law firm that happened to represent FCUSA. Lets say that she had an involved ringside seat for the affair. She didn't disclose any info to me other than a heads up to search the many automotive blogs when there were new developments. This case was followed and reported on quite closely by several automotive bloggers and magazines.

[rickf]

You have the love the American way, take stuff away from a vehicle and add 6K to the price.

[m3a1]

Very informative, Dave.

Rick, you're not paying for less stuff. You're paying for Mahindra's legal fees.

Why not get that Ol' Heep sorted out? Some old license plates, a mallet and some shoot-em screws should take care of the rust on the body.

[rickf]

The State will not let me put antique tags on it because it has been modified. Years ago I even took pictures of a perfectly identical Jeep to Motor Vehicle to use as my pics and the guy said no, it has been modified with a winch. I told him that they could be ordered from the factory stock WITH a winch, still no tags. So still stuck paying NJ's High 80 some dollar registration fee for the tags. I do pay a very low price (for NJ) for insurance through Hagerty. As you can tell from the cam lope that is not really a very good road vehicle. It has a 401 AMC engine with a 904 auto trans and a special built converter. Stall speed is around 2,000. Lockers front and back. So if you it the gas too hard in a turn it will lift at least one tire and sometimes both but no matter since the rear locker kicks it without both fronts planted it will go straight. It was built for NJ mud so tire speed was the goal. I had it at Graves a few years ago but the fuel pump went out. First it was vapor locking and then if started puking gas out the side of the pump. I have debated in doing a full restore on it especially considering what late CJ's are bringing for money these days. At one time that had a 454 Chevy stuffed in it. THAT broke a lot of parts!!!!

[m3a1]

First of all, with goofy rules like that, New Jersey is a ridiculous place to live.

Second of all, one moment you're arguing against it being too modified to register and then you're telling us all how modified it is. What th...?!

Third, I think you're just angry that ROXOR spelled backwards... is ROXOR. Can't make that claim with JEEP which (dare I say it?)...is PEEJ which sounds almost as ridiculous as New Jersey registration law is.

I'm rather sure I had a point to make with all of this but my present train of thought has left the station, has derailed and has slid into a ravine.

NEED MORE COFFEE!

Oh yeah. Keep the winch, sell the Jeep, and use the money to buy something far more worthy than a Roxor.

[rickf]

I didn't say it was too modified to register, I just said it couldn't be registered as an antique. But, It is a handful to drive on the road for an old coot like me. My reflexes ain't what they used to be. Once off road I am right at home with it.