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Vietnam M151A2

Unread post by Dakota » October 31st, 2011, 5:22 pm

I recently purcased an M151A2 from a guy who imported it from Vietnam.
The Mutt have no data plates, only the body nr 8754459 is available.
Is it possible to find out anything about the Mutts history from this number ?

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Re: Vietnam M151A2

Unread post by battlebuggy » October 31st, 2011, 5:38 pm

Contact muttguru on the g503.com M151 forum. He can give you some info from that body number.

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Re: Vietnam M151A2

Unread post by raymond » October 31st, 2011, 6:08 pm

I have no answer to your question, sorry. I just wanted to welcome a new member. Post some pictures, and there are people that can narrow down the year of your M151 by looking for telltale differences in the body.
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Re: Vietnam M151A2

Unread post by Francis Marion » October 31st, 2011, 6:15 pm

Muttguru checks in here frequently too. Give him a day or two to respond.

Very little service information was kept for these things so the best you will probably get is an approximate manufacture date. There's also a fellow over on steelsoldiers.com who has a database of vehicle service records. i haven't seen him provide anything for a 151 yet but it's still worth the effort to find the thread and ask.
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Re: Vietnam M151A2

Unread post by rickf » October 31st, 2011, 7:16 pm

Francis Marion wrote:Muttguru checks in here frequently too. Give him a day or two to respond.

Very little service information was kept for these things so the best you will probably get is an approximate manufacture date. There's also a fellow over on steelsoldiers.com who has a database of vehicle service records. i haven't seen him provide anything for a 151 yet but it's still worth the effort to find the thread and ask.
That would be Carnac, He has to have the vehicle number from the dataplate to do anything.

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Re: Vietnam M151A2

Unread post by muttguru » October 31st, 2011, 7:21 pm

Dakota wrote:I recently purcased an M151A2 from a guy who imported it from Vietnam.
The Mutt have no data plates, only the body nr 8754459 is available.
Is it possible to find out anything about the Mutts history from this number ?
Dakota,
that number (8754459) is an M151A1....not an A2. if your vehicle is definitely an A2, then that tag with this number is from an earlier vehicle.

Is there anything else on the tag? There should be a series of letters and numbers.
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Re: Vietnam M151A2

Unread post by csmith » October 31st, 2011, 7:33 pm

Welcome Dakota, I brought one back for VN a couple years ago. Where is the body ID # and is it stamped into the body? If so it was put there by the VN DMV and would not have any relationship to a military number. You may find a military number on a BUD tag found in the top center of the firewall, or perhaps on a small foil tag on the drivers footwell just about where your foot meets the accelerator, or if you have a originial Data Plate.

If you can find a contract number and date on the engin plate (drivers side below carb and manifold) or on the tranny (have to remove the tranny cover from the shifters) you might be able to narrow it down. The VN also stamp a ID # on the motor block in a visible location.

Your mutt may also be a combination of 151, A1 and A2 parts. Seems the VN like the looks of the A2 and convert older models to A2's. Doesn't make it a bad mutt, just a bit of intel.

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Re: Vietnam M151A2

Unread post by Dakota » November 2nd, 2011, 3:42 am

Picture of the Mutt
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No data plates on the engine or any other place on the car , only the serial nr stamped here :

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Re: Vietnam M151A2

Unread post by moose53 » November 2nd, 2011, 5:52 pm

From the pictures it is indeed an A2. I couldn't see the front of the fenders to be 100% sure, but it appears to have the side body drain holes which would make it a AM General, engine pic shows a non-emissions model, so, probably manufactured in 1972 or 73. Look behind the fuel lines on the transmission hump for a very thin metal tag, right about where your right ankle would be if you were sitting in the driver seat. Often it is very hard to spot under several layers of paint. If it is there and you can't read it because of paint buildup, a word of caution, don't sand the paint off, use stripper. the numbers are usually stamped so lightly that casual sanding will remove then completely. good luck!

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Re: Vietnam M151A2

Unread post by Dakota » November 2nd, 2011, 6:20 pm

Thank you, will look. The Mutt have been converted to 12 volt electrical system and is missing the front differential and axles so it will take som effort and parts to bring it back to mil. spec.

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Re: Vietnam M151A2

Unread post by rickf » November 2nd, 2011, 7:29 pm

Is it running the stack 24 volt coil on 12 volts? I have seen this done before and I thought that would be a good way to make a stock coil survive. I have been trying to figure out what size ballast resister I would need to drop the voltage down to around 20 volts.

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Re: Vietnam M151A2

Unread post by 64 M151 » November 2nd, 2011, 8:17 pm

For one it is not a car. Its a jeep and will always be a jeep. If you call it car then tell what car can lay down the windshield, go off roading in 4 X 4, has no doors and take the top off and store it in the vehicle along with the doors and side curtains.

From the looks of it, looks to be a M151A2 except the gas cap and the front bumper. The front bumper is from a M151A1 and the gas cap is from a M151. Only way to really tell if its a straight M151A2 body is to check the front composit light area to see if it has been been welded in on both sides. If no weld/gounding marks then its a M151A2. But really to be sure need a photo of all sides. Also another telltale sign is the rear seat frame on how it is supported.

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Re: Vietnam M151A2

Unread post by rickf » November 3rd, 2011, 7:31 am

There are no mounting points or holes for a voltage regulator, That would pretty much point to an A2.It also has the hole for the return line to the carb.
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Re: Vietnam M151A2

Unread post by csmith » November 3rd, 2011, 2:06 pm

As I suspected the SS# is not military issue, it would have been issued by the VN DMV and is in a typical location on the firewall. There will (or should) also be a different # stamped on the block. Mixture of parts for different variants of 151's, (typical of VN Mutts) front seats are not military. How is the under body main frame channels?
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Re: Vietnam M151A2

Unread post by Dakota » November 4th, 2011, 4:00 pm

Thank you all for info. It seems that the vietnamese removed all traces of former US ownership on the wehicle.

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