Two 1962 Ford M151's

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Re: Two 1962 Ford M151's

Unread post by rickf » February 2nd, 2023, 3:16 pm

Not with high strength steel. The manufacturers specify MIG only. I have been away from bodywork too long but that much I do know. Gas imparts too much heat. Your experience as a sheet metal worker explains why I did not see a bunch of stretched metal I expected to see with the hammer on dolly effect of the big steel backer for the fender. Light taps, light taps. I have seen so many people wail away with the hammer on a dent with the dolly on the bottom and then wonder why the flat panel is growing. If you go way, way back to the beginning of this site you will find my thread "Ricks restore" Where I built my side panel from scratch and shrunk the front fender back into shape. It would oil can almost 3/4".
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone

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Re: Two 1962 Ford M151's

Unread post by Hambone » February 2nd, 2023, 9:32 pm

rickf wrote:
February 2nd, 2023, 3:16 pm
If you go way, way back to the beginning of this site you will find my thread "Ricks restore" Where I built my side panel from scratch and shrunk the front fender back into shape. It would oil can almost 3/4".
Were those pictures taken with a Polaroid?? :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

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Re: Two 1962 Ford M151's

Unread post by rickf » February 3rd, 2023, 9:41 am

They certainly were not taken with a cell phone. :lol:
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Re: Two 1962 Ford M151's

Unread post by M37 » March 2nd, 2023, 1:13 am

The fender got some love today. I was dreading this repair because of all the compound curves.

I used a repair corner made by a guy at CMD.

It took a lot of careful trimming and fitting to get the new and old metal to fit the way I wanted. In the end it turned out better than I had hoped.

Now to do the drivers side next!

Before pictures….
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Re: Two 1962 Ford M151's

Unread post by M37 » March 2nd, 2023, 1:18 am

Here are the after photos…
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Re: Two 1962 Ford M151's

Unread post by M37 » March 2nd, 2023, 1:21 am

More pictures of the process.
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Re: Two 1962 Ford M151's

Unread post by m3a1 » March 2nd, 2023, 6:01 pm

Very nice. Has your wife finally stopped looking at you like are a crazy, homeless person and finally let your sleep on the bed, rather than on the couch? ...cause that third photo looked pretty awful.

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Re: Two 1962 Ford M151's

Unread post by rickf » March 2nd, 2023, 6:19 pm

You are getting there, on the welding you need to stay in one spot with a shorter weld time, await a second, move ahead just a hair and strike off on the high spot of the last weld and fill in the low ahead of it. Very short spots. Very time consuming I know but when done right you will be proud of your work. I see rust on the back of the one fender so on that one you need to favor the good fender just a bit and maybe turn down the wire speed a hair. You are getting there the biggest problem with body sheet metal is we all get greedy and try to go for just a little more and then it bites us, burn through.

There are people that can run a continuous bead on this sheet but they are few and far between and they also do it day in and day out. And you have to be fast.
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1984 M1008
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12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone

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Re: Two 1962 Ford M151's

Unread post by M37 » March 3rd, 2023, 12:12 am

:lol: TJ, My wife already knows I’m a crazy homeless person! She is actually happy to see me happy, and making so much progress on the M151.

It probably helps that I am working mids too, and my weekends fall on her workdays :lol:

Rick,

That is exactly how I weld these repairs, slow methodical tack welds, overlapping one another and cooled with compressed air. I wasn’t worried about the rust because I cleaned a thin strip at the weld joint. The proof of the technique is almost always visible the finished product.

Until next time

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Re: Two 1962 Ford M151's

Unread post by rickf » March 3rd, 2023, 11:32 am

Don' worry about the compressed air. Spot weld, wait one two, weld, wait one two weld. Once you get the cadence down pat the finished weld will look like a continuous weld. I do about five tacks and move ahead a ways and do five and move ahead a ways and then move back. This way things have a time to cool on their own . Plus, cooling with the air cools it too much so that is why you get the high tacks. You do still want residual heat in the last tack, just not enough to cause a burn through.
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1984 M1008
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12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone

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Re: Two 1962 Ford M151's

Unread post by M37 » March 3rd, 2023, 2:11 pm

Definitely many ways to skin this cat, so to speak.
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Re: Two 1962 Ford M151's

Unread post by m3a1 » March 3rd, 2023, 2:18 pm

Looks GREAT! I cannot imagine how that leading edge got that mangled without affecting the rest of the fender!

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Re: Two 1962 Ford M151's

Unread post by M37 » March 3rd, 2023, 8:59 pm

TJ,

The rest of the fender was actually affected quite a bit, from the leading edge damage. I need to dig back into my old photos and post a before shot. I have about 24 hours over 3 days of hammer and dolly work, heat shrinking and dent bumping to get those areas back to straight.

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Re: Two 1962 Ford M151's

Unread post by m3a1 » March 4th, 2023, 12:32 am

Can't wait to see the process!

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