Restauración A2

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Re: Restauración A2

Unread post by m3a1 » March 21st, 2021, 8:22 pm

Very nice, but paint those pioneer tools!

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Unread post by rupert's » March 22nd, 2021, 5:51 pm

Mark wrote:
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I thought it went on the side of air filter housing,But I looked on my mutts--no sticker.Is it NBC warfare sticker?
Yes that's it
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Very nice, but paint those pioneer tools!

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m3a1 ... I don't understand, pioneer tools! I do not know what you mean

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Unread post by rickf » March 22nd, 2021, 6:46 pm

The axe and the shovel. Over here they are called pioneer tools.
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Unread post by rupert's » March 22nd, 2021, 6:59 pm

AAhh ok ok! how strange to call them like that heh at least for me!
In that case ... My pioneering tools are already painted. I have painted them black and the handle varnished, perhaps I should have used a darker varnish for the wood to look older.

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Unread post by m3a1 » March 22nd, 2021, 7:35 pm

Just having some fun with you! Make it your own...the way YOU like it. That's what it's all about.

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Unread post by Mark » March 22nd, 2021, 10:41 pm

On my A2, the ax/shovel were painted black, the guy I bought it from, said he got the mutt direct from the USMC
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Unread post by lpcoating » March 26th, 2021, 12:41 pm

For the sake of conversation: The muffler heat shield was brought up in this post. As we sell parts, on occasion I get asked about what color the heat shield was from the factory. While I don't know for certain, I have a hard time believing that the production line would have taken the time to paint the heat shield a high temp silver. This is a picture of my 1968 A1. It looks like the original paint is still on some of the shield. And, it appears to be the same as the rest of the truck.
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Unread post by Horst » March 26th, 2021, 3:37 pm

I can confirm, the heat shield is painted with like the rest of the body. (my 151 has never been in civilian hands..)
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Unread post by rupert's » March 26th, 2021, 4:00 pm

I've painted mine in black, but an insulator is supposed to be missing between this part and the car floor to prevent the area between the seats from getting hot.

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Unread post by Horst » March 26th, 2021, 4:34 pm

there is no insulator between the heat shield and the body. Nobody will stop you from putting one there but it is certainly not needed
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Unread post by rickf » March 26th, 2021, 5:55 pm

I know on my A1 and the body I got with it they were both silver and both straight out of the military. Maybe things changed with the A2? You say you get no heat on the floor so something had to change.
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Unread post by Mark » March 26th, 2021, 6:23 pm

No heat on the floor for my 151, A2, not much, I'll check again tomorrow(it was a long time ago)
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Re: Restauración A2

Unread post by lpcoating » March 26th, 2021, 6:38 pm

Floor on my A2 gets pretty warm.

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Re: Restauración A2

Unread post by m3a1 » March 27th, 2021, 12:45 am

That heat shield, painted, or unpainted does only one thing. It prevents the radiant heat from directly reaching the floorpan and promotes cooling by means of air passing over and around the shield to whisk away the heat. In short, the passing air is cooling the shield as it collects heat. Any coating on the heat shield that has a reflective quality improves its performance.

Yes, a certain amount of heat WILL reach the floor in any event, particularly with the kind of driving we civilians do, much of which is stop and go. Happily, there is little in that area that would be directly affected by a warmed floor pan.

But, unless your paint is changing color because of the heat, I daresay you'll be okay. Leave a MUTT out in the sun in Texas in the summertime. I guarantee you the floor pan will be just as hot, if not hotter than when you're running the engine.

But, if it bothers you, there are plenty of hot rod, street rod, race car products out there (Summit Racing Products would be a great place to begin)

https://www.summitracing.com/search/par ... =Ascending

but to be entirely fair, Summit certainly isn't the only game in town, so shop around.

Heat barriers are constructed with a thick foil on one side, with good, strong adhesive (which requires a clean surface) on the other and a lot of miraculous insulative and sound deadening stuff in between. Cuts to fit with a simple pair of scissors. I got some Thermo-tec (the cheap stuff) to line the interior of the roof of our drop top Mercedes (it being a small car to begin with it gets toasty really quick) and it made a substantial difference so yes, even the cheap stuff would do well on a MUTT.

We had used it extensively on a rail dragster we ran way back when, (when the engines were in the front, the drivers straddled the bell housing and differential and men died like REAL men).

Were you to lay some of that on the underside of the floor in the tunnel you would see especially good results and NOBODY would ever see it.

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Re: Restauración A2

Unread post by rupert's » June 20th, 2021, 12:33 pm

m3a1 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:45 am
That heat shield, painted, or unpainted does only one thing. It prevents the radiant heat from directly reaching the floorpan and promotes cooling by means of air passing over and around the shield to whisk away the heat. In short, the passing air is cooling the shield as it collects heat. Any coating on the heat shield that has a reflective quality improves its performance.

Yes, a certain amount of heat WILL reach the floor in any event, particularly with the kind of driving we civilians do, much of which is stop and go. Happily, there is little in that area that would be directly affected by a warmed floor pan.

But, unless your paint is changing color because of the heat, I daresay you'll be okay. Leave a MUTT out in the sun in Texas in the summertime. I guarantee you the floor pan will be just as hot, if not hotter than when you're running the engine.

But, if it bothers you, there are plenty of hot rod, street rod, race car products out there (Summit Racing Products would be a great place to begin)

https://www.summitracing.com/search/par ... =Ascending

but to be entirely fair, Summit certainly isn't the only game in town, so shop around.

Heat barriers are constructed with a thick foil on one side, with good, strong adhesive (which requires a clean surface) on the other and a lot of miraculous insulative and sound deadening stuff in between. Cuts to fit with a simple pair of scissors. I got some Thermo-tec (the cheap stuff) to line the interior of the roof of our drop top Mercedes (it being a small car to begin with it gets toasty really quick) and it made a substantial difference so yes, even the cheap stuff would do well on a MUTT.

We had used it extensively on a rail dragster we ran way back when, (when the engines were in the front, the drivers straddled the bell housing and differential and men died like REAL men).

Were you to lay some of that on the underside of the floor in the tunnel you would see especially good results and NOBODY would ever see it.

Cheers,
TJ
TJ ... this conversation has been a long time ago, but it was an issue I still had pending. This weekend I put an insulator in the area of the muffler of the exhaust pipe. I did not want to fill everything with silver insulation, I have only insulated the sheet that gets so hot and can burn anything you put there, and I have also put the heat diffuser.
I also leave it in case someone can use it as an idea ...

The insulator comes with an adhesive face, it is thin because it is only for temperature, it has an aluminum layer and a fiberglass layer, according to the specifications it holds 800º Centigrade ...
I have not tried it to see how hot it gets but if there is someone interested I can measure the temperature of the sheet after driving a few km.

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