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Re: Generic jeep

Unread post by Hambone » December 3rd, 2016, 3:52 pm

Got one side of the Alley Cat floors repaired today, those migs sure hate that rusty metal, hope to knock out the other side tomorrow, unless my wife takes me Christmas shopping. :x
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Unread post by Mark » December 3rd, 2016, 6:19 pm

I sure would like to have your skills/knowledge which I can say the same for a lot other members
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Unread post by m3a1 » December 4th, 2016, 3:01 pm

Hey, Hambone... I have an Alley Cat as well. My driver's side gas tank floor and sidewall was shot to pieces with rust.

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Here's something you might want to consider now that you are where you are on the project. The reason that area of mine went so bad in the first place is the support panel for the seat holds everything that gets in there, in there(!) and there's no practical way to maintain it.

When I get mine put back in, my forward seat support is going to be constructed of some square or rectangular tubing so that I can get back into that space to clean it out from time to time. I don't know about you but I've never, ever stuck my head down in the footwell to look at that panel so I think there isn't much debate about how important cosmetics are vs. the potential for more rust but if I truly don't like the look, I may very well create a removable cover for it.

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Unread post by Hambone » December 4th, 2016, 6:29 pm

I think the one I have sat for years with leaves in the floor, ate them up pretty good, at least it's all flat metal, so not hard to repair, hopefully mine won't be left in the weather anymore. I'm not sure it is an Alley Cat, it's made a little different from yours, I was told it was built in Texas, mine came from Houston.

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Unread post by m3a1 » December 5th, 2016, 10:04 pm

Well, I've tried to speak with the guy who made these (http://www.samssurplus.com) but his daughter (at least I think it was his daughter) politely declined my request. It would be interesting to know if he made some design changes along the way but he certainly had some skills, to say the least!

Alley Cats were made in Stanton, Texas, which is on 20, up between Big Spring and Midland and I have it on very good authority that this is where mine originated. That is not to say that one or two didn't get retailed elsewhere, like Houston.

Either way, I think the Alley Cats are extremely well-constructed....much better than the original 151 models but that is what you get when all the government's restrictions on manner of construction, weight limitations and so forth, are lifted.

Now that I've reached a plateau on my A2, I'm thinking of diving back into the Alley Cat project just a little bit but this coming year is going to be the year of the half track for me. I'm dreadfully tired of having to look at it and not really be able to enjoy it.

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Unread post by Mr. Recovery » December 6th, 2016, 12:13 pm

I stopped at Sam's a few times when I was driving big rigs in the late 90's, at that time he had a set of jigs in the back part of the warehouse that covered 3 large work tables that had 1 being built and 1 finished tub on the floor, this was before I got my first 151 and I didn't think it was a big deal! :( Had I known then what I know now I would have bought one or both! :roll:

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Unread post by fergrn37 » December 6th, 2016, 6:37 pm

m3a1 - your link to sams doesn't get me anything but the home page. What are you referring to?
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Unread post by rickf » December 6th, 2016, 7:55 pm

He is telling you that Sams is the place that made the Ally Cat.
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exactly..

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Unread post by Hambone » December 29th, 2016, 2:46 pm

Drove 600 miles yesterday for this free Christmas present, don't tell my wife but it's the best present I got. :lol:
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Unread post by rickf » December 29th, 2016, 6:32 pm

38A1 that appears to be in pretty good shape. Where do you find these things?!
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Unread post by Hambone » December 30th, 2016, 10:47 am

rickf wrote:38A1 that appears to be in pretty good shape. Where do you find these things?!
There was a guy on the other G giving it away, just happened to be trolling when he posted it, he didn't have any metal skills so he bought a MD Juan body kit, he also hooked me up with his new windshield and hood that came with the kit, tub has a couple rust spots, easy fix, now I have to find a M38A1 with a rusted out body.

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Unread post by rickf » December 31st, 2016, 9:50 am

Or a early CJ-5.
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Unread post by Hambone » December 31st, 2016, 10:29 am

I have one spotted, the floors are rotted out, tranny shifter is locked up, but the motor isn't, I'm sure the tranny is full of water, he has to ask his son if he wants to keep it, if not, he would take $500, so did the early cj5 have the same frame and axles?

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Unread post by rickf » December 31st, 2016, 12:05 pm

Frame yes, axles I will have to check on for you. The engine is the i=only question mark. I think only the first year or two of the CJ used the same engine. Send a PM to Diamondjim, he will have all of those answers. I think he may be on the road right now though. I should be seeing him in a few days so I will ask.
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