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Re: clutch change

Unread post by svramselaar » November 25th, 2024, 6:28 am

hi

normaly if you put the clutch disk assy and plate assy at the flywheel
not bolted on the flywheel there must be a gap between the plate assy and the flywheel where the bolt hole`s are
this is aboud the half thicknes of the new disk assy
it is there to get spring pressure to the disk assy wen bolted at the flywheel
if this is to low your clutch will slip (to smal gap )
the adjusting at the fingers is only the hight of fingers not for for more pressure

the 0.310 inch or 7,87 mm is i thinck the thicknes of a new disk
the finger hight is between the disk assy surface and the surface where the clutch bearing make contact

if you want to use the diafrafma clutch assy it works the same only no adjustment

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Re: clutch change

Unread post by rickf » November 25th, 2024, 9:26 am

I am not sure but I think the stock pressure plate for the fiber disc is a diaphragm style while the plate for the puck clutch is the finger style. Or vice versa. It has been so long since I did a clutch I don't remember what the one in mine is. Other than it is a puck pressure plate with a fiber disc on a torn up flywheel from a puck clutch. So basically I did all the things wrong that you could possibly do and have had zero problems for many years of off road mountain trails that really tested clutch.
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Re: clutch change

Unread post by svramselaar » November 26th, 2024, 6:09 am

hi
rick
at the parts manual there are only finger pressure plate`s for the mutt
there are two numbers the 8328265 and 8328265-1
i tink the 8328265-1 is a newer number so it can be fot the puck type

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Re: clutch change

Unread post by rickf » November 26th, 2024, 9:41 am

I think a lot of what is supplied is determined by who has the contract at any given time. I have bought NOS clutch kits with both versions of the pressure plate. They both do the same job. The diaphragm style tends to be easier on the leg from what I have seen in overall use throughout all kinds of vehicles. The main thing Rupert has to understand is that the distance between the clutch fingers where the throwout bearing contacts (either style) and the clutch plate has GOT to be a set distance. Using a plate from some other application means this is a crapshoot.
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Re: clutch change

Unread post by rupert's » November 28th, 2024, 7:15 pm

svramselaar wrote:
November 25th, 2024, 6:28 am
hi

normaly if you put the clutch disk assy and plate assy at the flywheel
not bolted on the flywheel there must be a gap between the plate assy and the flywheel where the bolt hole`s are
this is aboud the half thicknes of the new disk assy
it is there to get spring pressure to the disk assy wen bolted at the flywheel
if this is to low your clutch will slip (to smal gap )
the adjusting at the fingers is only the hight of fingers not for for more pressure

the 0.310 inch or 7,87 mm is i thinck the thicknes of a new disk
the finger hight is between the disk assy surface and the surface where the clutch bearing make contact

if you want to use the diafrafma clutch assy it works the same only no adjustment
Hi svramselaar, I prefer to use the diaphragm one, I think I'll be more relaxed after the problems I've had with the three-finger system, I want to try this one: https://www.jeepsudest.com/boutique/5-e ... -renforce/ CLUTCH PRESSURE PLATE FOR FORD GPA, GPW, MB. I think for Mutt too, what do you think?

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Re: clutch change

Unread post by Horst » November 29th, 2024, 4:49 pm

the fact that it does not say M151 should tell you everything, no?
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Re: clutch change

Unread post by rickf » November 29th, 2024, 7:16 pm

I am pretty sure the clutch discs are the same thickness between the puck and fiber. The big difference is the clutch material. The puck is a metallic ceramic material and it grabs very aggressively. We use the same thing for racing. Also, you have less surface are with the puck clutch which amounts to more pressure in force per sq. inch. Together with the aggressive material you get a grabby clutch. And Rupert, that clutch does not look right to me, someone may have put the wrong one in before you got it. I will go out in the shed tomorrow and get some pics of mine.
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