M151A2 Steering Extremely Stiff

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Re: M151A2 Steering Extremely Stiff

Unread post by Horst » December 30th, 2024, 5:44 am

at least it is a relatively cheap fix for your problem...
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Re: M151A2 Steering Extremely Stiff

Unread post by rickf » December 30th, 2024, 10:01 am

After seeing this I would highly recommend changing ALL of the oils, engine, transmission and differentials. You have no idea what this person has done.
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Re: M151A2 Steering Extremely Stiff

Unread post by glcaines » January 2nd, 2025, 6:22 pm

I received my NOS MRC 104 KSFF bearing from Army Jeep Parts today. The bearing was completely frozen up. No way to turn it. It had zero rust or corrosion, but apparently the grease in the bearing had solidified. The bearing is probably many decades old. Interestingly, this is a completely sealed bearing. I looked up new MRC 104 KSFF bearings and the new ball bearings with the same nomenclature are not sealed. Anyway, I took a heat gun to the frozen-up bearing from AJP and heated it up to ~120 deg. F. After this I was able to get the bearing to turn with difficulty. I kept heating it and trying to turn it and it finally completely loosened up. Even after it cooled down, it now turns completely freely, just like it should. I'm going to go ahead and use it. There is no way to add any grease to it since it is a sealed bearing.
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Re: M151A2 Steering Extremely Stiff

Unread post by lpcoating » January 2nd, 2025, 9:55 pm

You should be able to remove the seal on the bearing.

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Re: M151A2 Steering Extremely Stiff

Unread post by glcaines » January 4th, 2025, 12:06 pm

lpcoating wrote:
January 2nd, 2025, 9:55 pm
You should be able to remove the seal on the bearing.
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When I said sealed bearing I was probably misleading. The original bearing and the NOS one from Army Jeep Parts were identical. There is steel crimped in place on both sides of the bearing. There is no way to really get in there and remove the old grease and apply new grease. The bearing appears to be 100% functional today after the heat treatment with the heat gun. Apparently, the heat resurrected the old grease since it now turns freely and feels like it was recently greased. I'm going to install it today.
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Re: M151A2 Steering Extremely Stiff

Unread post by Horst » January 4th, 2025, 4:05 pm

Following this thread, I probably have a comparable topic. As already said, once the jeep sits for some time, the first minutes of driving will show some stiff steering behaviour which goes away after a few minutes driving. I do believe now that also in my case that said bearing is the culprit. Being a "Barstow" it is the original bearing and did sit many years outside.
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1962 M201 and trailer
1966 GTO,1982 E350 Skoolie, 1987 SJ413, 1987 911
Gone: 2xM35A2c, Unimog 404S, Hanomag AL28, DKW Munga

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Re: M151A2 Steering Extremely Stiff

Unread post by glcaines » January 5th, 2025, 2:19 pm

The steering is back together now with the new bearing from AJP. What a difference! Before, it was literally almost impossible to turn the steering wheel. Now, with the front wheels off the ground, it will turn with one finger. I'm getting ready to adjust the brakes is why the front end is still off the ground. This was not a difficult job to do once I knew where the problem was.
M151A2 (1977), M151A2 (1973)
M416 Trailer
M35A3 W/W and M66 Gun Ring
M149A1 Water Buffalo Trailer
M105A1 Trailer
XM1061E1 Trailer
FLU419
M116A1 Trailer W/MEP003A Generator
M1030M1 USMC Diesel Motorcycle
M274A5 Mechanical Mule (4-Wheel Steer)

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