Aftermarket wheels/tires
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Aftermarket wheels/tires
I saw a post earlier about the civvy tires some of you have. After seeing a stunning video clip on Youtube of a Mutt rollover test which was initiated on a skid-pad with a minimal turn (and military tires), I'm considering going with the civilian tires on the AlleyCat.
I like the wheels most often seen on the FAVs. However, I'm concerned about getting wheels with a proper off-set. I'm also concerned about how all this effects steering (i.e. rubbing on tight turns) and fender clearances.
So, can I get some input from those of you who have blazed this trail already?
Cheers,
TJ
I like the wheels most often seen on the FAVs. However, I'm concerned about getting wheels with a proper off-set. I'm also concerned about how all this effects steering (i.e. rubbing on tight turns) and fender clearances.
So, can I get some input from those of you who have blazed this trail already?
Cheers,
TJ
Re: Aftermarket wheels/tires
Don't do it. You've got to get over this roll over thing. It is very real but don't let it consume you.
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Re: Aftermarket wheels/tires
Original wheels have a very negative offset. I just went and measured mine and the bolt pattern is 5 on 5.528. That should work with an earlier Ford F150, Bronco or Jeep CJ wheel. If you go with a more positive offset then you will run into a problem with the tire rotating in an arc when turning instead of rotating on the contact patch. You will also have a lot of fender interference unless you stay with smaller tires.
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Re: Aftermarket wheels/tires
I think this is the video he is referring to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N309xX663cY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N309xX663cY
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Re: Aftermarket wheels/tires
Yea, but it landed on it's wheels.
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Re: Aftermarket wheels/tires
Ok, Be honest...Just how many of you guys have rolled a 151 series jeep completely over? HTN
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Re: Aftermarket wheels/tires
This is the only picture of a roll over I have:
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1967 M151A1
1967 M151A1
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1947 Bantam TC-3 trailer
If The Phone Don't Ring ... You'll Know It's Me
Airborne Ranger CIB Vietnam
Re: Aftermarket wheels/tires
I see where that one is headed.
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1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
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i have big o tires on the jeep i bought in january, and they were brand new, on 151 wheels, and it has been fine so far. i will replace them with military tires when they wear out, but that's in the future. and in that rollover picture above, are you sure that jeep isn't just doing my drill sergeant's favorite exercise, "the dying cockroach"?
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Re: Aftermarket wheels/tires
That pic is of a FAC M151 they were never to be driven over 35 to 40 mph do to the weight and the highth of the radio sets
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This is not my photo and I have no details on the rollover other then it took place in Germany.
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Re: Aftermarket wheels/tires
Ok Rick, you da boss.
On the other hand, you don't know my wife's driving habits !
I'm a retired 30 year traffic cop and I've seen (first hand) the end result of ignorance, stupidity (and just pure bad luck) behind the wheel of an automobile.
Well, I guess I'll just bring the video to her attention. That ought to make her respect the Mutt just a little bit more.
Cheers,
TJ
On the other hand, you don't know my wife's driving habits !
I'm a retired 30 year traffic cop and I've seen (first hand) the end result of ignorance, stupidity (and just pure bad luck) behind the wheel of an automobile.
Well, I guess I'll just bring the video to her attention. That ought to make her respect the Mutt just a little bit more.
Cheers,
TJ
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Re: Aftermarket wheels/tires
toptiger wrote:I think this is the video he is referring to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N309xX663cY
My arm has never been the same since I made that little film clip.
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halftracknut wrote:Ok, Be honest...Just how many of you guys have rolled a 151 series jeep completely over? HTN
THAT is a fair question.
I saw one that HAD been rolled over...by a drunk Spec 4 in Vietnam...who was thinking he was back in his GTO instead of a Mutt.
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1964, M151-A1
1950, US M-38 Jeep. Serial # 36.
1952,US M-38 Jeep
1965, Willys M-274 Mule
1945, CCKW, closed cab, 353
416 Trailer
M100 Trailer
US Army 5 year RA. RSVN 1968-1970
1964, M151-A1
1950, US M-38 Jeep. Serial # 36.
1952,US M-38 Jeep
1965, Willys M-274 Mule
1945, CCKW, closed cab, 353
416 Trailer
M100 Trailer
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Re: Aftermarket wheels/tires
I almost lost an A-1 once but I was down hill in a right hand turn and could feel her about to give so I let off of it and she strightened right up...you get the sme response from an old VW....
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