Mutt Evolution
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Mutt Evolution
My dads had a mutt since he was in highschool(stock a1) However, the stock mutt didn't meet his offroad needs. Here are some pictures of the mutt that evolved from Johnson Valley's Hammer trails back in the early to mid 90's.
TDS
Top Truck Challenge 1995 4th place finish overall (next tire size up from his mutt was 35, he had 32's. And he was running open diff at the time. That's where he discovered the suzuki samurai locker fits in the mutt diff.)
Johnson Valley Dune back in the day
Oops! Miller Jeep trail, cottonwood camp.
Rubicon Trail
100$ Bet against a hummer H1 owner(first h1 over the rubicon) that he could twist the rock... he rolled the first time, 2nd attempt was successful. The bet was called off, good times... he says "no alcohol involved"
rubicon trail
Local Riverbottom
Testing Fording Kits
Panamint City Mine
Surprise Canyon, drove down 7 waterfalls, no winch
Moab, Utah
Twisting Avalanche Engineering's Sniper Prototype
Deuce Ershim Trail
MODS:
2" drop on all suspension points, 2" square steal in between the body and front suspension
longer shocks, longer springs, home built drop pitman arm and 3/4 ton chevy idler arm drop 2 inches,
tierods reinforced, rear wheel camber adjusted and rear shocks replaced with rancho 9000's and moved to under fender, dual stock transmissions, dana 44 rear diff narrowed to stock mutt specs with an ARB air locker, cutter brakes, air compressor(powered by mutt starter motor),warn 24v 9000 lb winch,32 10.50 15 TSL swamper radials,stock front diff with sammy locker,custom u joints. Lots of other mild changes like turning rear bumpers upside down to increase departure angle, front bumper cut, CB radio, radio, etc...
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+ main jet drilled, dual exhaust outlets connecting to a 2"
TDS
Top Truck Challenge 1995 4th place finish overall (next tire size up from his mutt was 35, he had 32's. And he was running open diff at the time. That's where he discovered the suzuki samurai locker fits in the mutt diff.)
Johnson Valley Dune back in the day
Oops! Miller Jeep trail, cottonwood camp.
Rubicon Trail
100$ Bet against a hummer H1 owner(first h1 over the rubicon) that he could twist the rock... he rolled the first time, 2nd attempt was successful. The bet was called off, good times... he says "no alcohol involved"
rubicon trail
Local Riverbottom
Testing Fording Kits
Panamint City Mine
Surprise Canyon, drove down 7 waterfalls, no winch
Moab, Utah
Twisting Avalanche Engineering's Sniper Prototype
Deuce Ershim Trail
MODS:
2" drop on all suspension points, 2" square steal in between the body and front suspension
longer shocks, longer springs, home built drop pitman arm and 3/4 ton chevy idler arm drop 2 inches,
tierods reinforced, rear wheel camber adjusted and rear shocks replaced with rancho 9000's and moved to under fender, dual stock transmissions, dana 44 rear diff narrowed to stock mutt specs with an ARB air locker, cutter brakes, air compressor(powered by mutt starter motor),warn 24v 9000 lb winch,32 10.50 15 TSL swamper radials,stock front diff with sammy locker,custom u joints. Lots of other mild changes like turning rear bumpers upside down to increase departure angle, front bumper cut, CB radio, radio, etc...
*edit*
+ main jet drilled, dual exhaust outlets connecting to a 2"
Last edited by GARETT0439 on December 11th, 2011, 9:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Mutt Evolution
Nice.....enjoyed the pictures. Seabee
1971 M151A2 MUTT , M416 trailer
NMCB 62, Delta Co.,BU2, Gulfport, MS Home Port
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NMCB 62, Delta Co.,BU2, Gulfport, MS Home Port
VFW 3838, American Legion 63
Seabee Association of America LM , NMCB 62 Assoc.
"Performance Under Fire" US Navy Seabees '69-'72
National Assoc. of Atomic Veterans/ Amchitka
SEMO University Vet Corp Alumni
MVPA#32091
Re: Mutt Evolution
Do you still have the info on the Suzuki locker? I lost that procedure years ago and always wanted to try it.
Rick
Rick
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
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Re: Mutt Evolution
Yes, i put on in my jeep a few months back. Will this link help?rickf wrote:Do you still have the info on the Suzuki locker? I lost that procedure years ago and always wanted to try it.
Rick
http://www.muttmotorpool.com/locker.html
If not i can explain
Re: Mutt Evolution
That was the link I was talking about but do you have the spewcifics for the modifications? How much to machine off the side gears and where are you getting the replacement axles? Ron had some really neat stuff but he dropped off the face of the earth so none of the stuff can be duplicated.
Rick
Rick
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
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Re: Mutt Evolution
I don't think there's an exact amount of metal to grind off, its kind of just a grind&check. I just ground a little, then secured it in a vice and turned the yokes while peeking in to see if the locking mechanism had enough room on each side to expand. I used a new brand of locker(spartan lockright) which has teeth that are shaped a little bit different from the older traditional lockrights, so I had to round the teeth of my yokes in order to get it to disengage.
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Re: Mutt Evolution
All I have done to strengthen my front drivetrain so far is put spicer ujoints on the outsides, where the gnarly angles occur.
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It mentions in the post a modified spider, what is the modification? And do those axles come with the kit and work without modification?
Rick
Rick
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
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Re: Mutt Evolution
I don't know what they are talking about with that kit. I got the spartan locker and i didn't have to jack around with aftermarket axles, all we did was round the teeth of the axles shafts in order for the locker to disengage more freely when in 2wd.
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Re: Mutt Evolution
Which Spicer U-Joints did you use? Was there any modifications necessary?
Eric
***My Jeep won a war, your CJ delivers my mail***
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AIR FORCE (1998-Present)
The American Legion
NRA, 1999 (#: 39234404)
MVPA (#: 34922)
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M151A2 super MUTT (stolen)
M151A2 regular MUTT (in works)
Harley Davidson WLA w/ sidecar
M-37 x 2
***My Jeep won a war, your CJ delivers my mail***
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AIR FORCE (1998-Present)
The American Legion
NRA, 1999 (#: 39234404)
MVPA (#: 34922)
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M151A2 super MUTT (stolen)
M151A2 regular MUTT (in works)
Harley Davidson WLA w/ sidecar
M-37 x 2